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VW MKVII-Mk7 Golf family including Golf Wagon (~ 2015 +) Discussions area for the Mk7 (2015+) Golf and Golf Wagon TDIs based on the MQB (Modularer Querbaukasten) platform.

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Old August 21st, 2018, 06:29   #61
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I haven't had time to update mine and try again, but will post when I do.
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Old September 14th, 2018, 07:09   #62
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I've updated mine a few times in the past several weeks, they're still making improvements.
The "audio not available" issue seems resolved, so it always works now. Also works again after I had Phase 2 done at the dealer.
Still some text size and or alignment to improve, but they have been making changes to this over the different revisions and are still asking for and responding to feedback.

Below are all the parameters I see as options with the current update 0.2.1b2 as of 9/13/18

Some I don't know exactly what they stand for or how they're useful, or I know what they are more or less but where are they measured?

I've setup the first 40 (max) 4 each on 10 different screens and will look at those for a while, then try the remainder. Eventually when they get all the bugs worked out I'll probably only use a couple screens of the most useful stuff. You can change the number of screens shown.

Polar MQB version 0.2.1b2 as of 9/13/18
mph
RPM
Oil F
Amb. F
Intake F
Coolant F
Motor F
Radiat. F
Fuel F
!Boost PSI
Boost PSI
Atm. PSI
Fuel PSI
Brake PSI
!Load %
M.A.F.
Pedal
Valve
Torque. FT-lb
Power HP
Oil Level
Lambda
Inj. m/str
St. BTDC
Dur. KW
St. q. m/str
D.1 m/str
D.2 m/str
D.3 m/str
D.4 m/str
D.5 m/str
D.6 m/str
EGRm/str
!Control %
Control %
DPF L.
DPF Mi.
AdB used
!DPF g.
DPF ST.
DPF PSI
Soot m gr.
!Soot m gr.
EGT S1 F
EGT S2 F
EGT S3 F
EGT S4 F
Gen. Load
Alt. power...
HVAC nm
Long. G
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Old September 14th, 2018, 16:41   #63
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Do you get any reading for intake temp?? One of the only parameters that tells me "N/A"
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Old September 15th, 2018, 11:27   #64
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Grigg, thanks for this info. I'm most interested in EGT. When you have a chance to observe it working both normally and in a regen phase, I'd like to know your observations. Four sensors for that is impressive.
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Old September 15th, 2018, 13:34   #65
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EGTs are pre-turbo, pre-DPF, post-DPF, and LP EGR. It's quite a lot!
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Old September 15th, 2018, 19:49   #66
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Excited to see IAT and EGT and a few others. Cant wait to update asap.
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Old September 17th, 2018, 05:25   #67
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Glad to know they are still working on their beta testing, fingers crossed.
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Old September 17th, 2018, 10:09   #68
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The whole list below again, corrected small errors like capitalization.

I've loaded and viewed all the parameters, most while driving, some only while parked and idling.
Preliminary results:

The following show N/A I assume not available in my particular model car a 2015 GSW S TDI Manual:
Intake F
Boost PSI ( "!Boost PSI" does show values)
D.2 m/str
D.5 m/str (others in this series do show values, not sure what this is anyhow)

These show values I don't understand and I'm not sure if they're right:
Brake PSI so far only shows "0.0" or "-0.0"
DPF L. shows "0.00"
DPF st. shows "0000" Not sure what this is

These might be right, but I'm still confused, example values while parked/idling:
Soot m gr. -1.2
!Soot m gr. 10.0
"!" means its a calculated value, but what's the calculation in this case?

Example EGT values parked, idling, and AC on. This looks good, what I've been waiting for!
Locations provided by adjat84th from post above.
EGT S1 F 320 (pre-turbo)
EGT S2 F 288 (pre-DPF)
EGT S3 F 260 (post-DPF)
EGT S4 F 224 (LP EGR)

Polar MQB version 0.2.1b2 as of 9/13/18
mph
RPM
Oil F
Amb. F
Intake F
Coolant F
Motor F
Radiat. F
Fuel F
!Boost PSI
Boost PSI
Atm. PSI
Fuel PSI
Brake PSI
!Load %
M.A.F.
Pedal
Valve
Torque. FT-lb
Power HP
Oil Level
Lambda
Inj. m/str
St. BTDC
Dur. KW
St. q. m/str
D.1 m/str
D.2 m/str
D.3 m/str
D.4 m/str
D.5 m/str
D.6 m/str
EGRm/str
!Control %
Control %
DPF L.
DPF Mi.
AdB used
!DPF g.
DPF st.
DPF PSI
Soot m gr.
!Soot m gr.
EGT S1 F
EGT S2 F
EGT S3 F
EGT S4 F
Gen. Load
Alt. power...
HVAC nm
Long. G
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Old September 18th, 2018, 07:45   #69
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EGT S3 F 260 (post-DPF)

This one should be one to stay pegged around 1100-1400 when doing a regen. From monitoring values with torque it's also the one that changes the slowest, where the others float around with almost direct correlation with throttle input (well except #4, i've never monitored that one).
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Old September 19th, 2018, 04:23   #70
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Originally Posted by Grigg3 View Post
DPF st. shows "0000" Not sure what this is
These might be right, but I'm still confused, example values while parked/idling:
Soot m gr. -1.2
!Soot m gr. 10.0
"!" means its a calculated value, but what's the calculation in this case?

IIRC from my 2011 with PolarFIS, "DPF st." is DPF Stage, which is a number like 0001 or 0004, and these show when a certain regen operation is happening. Best to watch this on a long drive to see when it changes from 0000.

"!Soot m gr." could be a calculated value becasue it's a level of soot that is calculated from values of different pressure sensors? Just a thought. My "Soot m gr." is always a negative value, IIRC mine is -1.6. I also do not know what this means or if it's completely wrong/etc.
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Old September 21st, 2018, 14:55   #71
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Just updated mine. I do not get the four EGT values, I get "DSG ft-lb" instead in the list last posted above. I'm a dsg car. Is yours a manual?

Why is the text even more screwed up size wise than what it was screwed up before? now the third line down if HUGE top two appear normalish, and bottom row is tiny.

The third HUGE row, it doesn't display what the value is, it just says the value. Like "80degF", but you don't know if that is coolant temp or, outside temp, or?
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Old September 28th, 2018, 06:35   #72
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this beta testing is going great!!!!
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Old September 28th, 2018, 10:13   #73
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Yes, mine is a manual.
I haven't updated mine yet but did receive an email a couple days ago about the latest version, some of that news cut and pasted below.
For reference they say my cluster is the "COLOR" version, and it works best with that update but I would have guessed it was white...
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Upgraded with the final v021 with more improvements. ... final version (not beta).

The problem with the old visualization method is that was possible align very good 1st and 2nd line, but 3rd and 4th was a nightmare so we moved to this one that align all centered.

PF04/PF05 Firmware Update v0.2.1
Added support for TORQUE and POWER CV in ECU EV_ECM18TFS0218V0906264x
Added support for new ECU EV_ECM16TDI02103L906023TF 003004
Added support for new ECU EV_ECM20TFS0208V0906259J 001003
Fixed issue that make that Virtual Cockpit screens get freezed sometimes
Fixed issue with menu access in some PF05 devices
Improved alignment of parameters in normal clusters and Virtual Cockpit clusters
New USB method for upgrade all PolarFIS devices (in beta mode, for testing)
New UpdaterTool released supporting new flashing method (v1.7.0)
Fixed issue with mirrors not working properly in some vehicles reported by users
Some other general improvements


New Virtual Cockpit firmwares added in support area (for UpdaterTool)
From now, there will be 2 differenced firmwares for the PolarFIS MQB devices.

Firmwares MQB FIS
This firmware version is for MQB vehicles equipped with WHITE and COLOR clusters (display)
It will make visible 4 lines of parameters
Firmware MQB VC
This firmware version is for MQB vehicles equipped with VIRTUAL COCKPIT display
It will make visible 3 lines of parameters


New USB connection method
We improved the connection via USB method, for upgrade the units, so now is not needed any confirmation in the UPDATE menu of PolarFIS. This will make that update process will be more easy, and user will be asked in the screen of the UpdaterTool for change from NORMAL MODE to FLASHING MODE.

This only will work with this new firmware and future firmwares, and with the last version of UpdaterTool, so we recomend all to download our last version v1.7.0 (already available in our website). Upgrade your PolarFIS device is very fast and easy. Just download the Updater Online software, CONNECT your unit and press UPDATE. You will be able to select your firmware desired and make click on it. Flashing procedure will take only few seconds.

Updater Online (v1.7.0): https://www.autopolar.net/downloads/Updater_Online.zip
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Old October 1st, 2018, 04:59   #74
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They may have meant that you don't have virtual cock pit.

if they fix kerning, I may think of it for our Alltrack, sadly there is so few sensors on the TSI that I wouldn't really use much of it, (no EGT sensors at all )
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Just clicked on the version 1.7.0 updater link above and it already takes me to version 1.8.1 of the updater.
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