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Old September 27th, 2018, 04:50   #31
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don't worry about it...oil specs are for idiots who have nothing to do than arguing about pointless stuff.

I would say all oils are same...their basic composition is same, they may have different additives for different designs.

I used VW 505.00 Mobil One 5W-50 because it is the only one oil that showed excellent heat properties at high temps...then suddenly VW 505.00 spec disappeared so I have found Liqui Moly stuff. Of course there is racing oils such as Motul 300V but it is same crap for 3x more money...useful for racing teams where +0.1% makes difference.

Just read tech sheet and you will find more than some useless VW specs...don't forget manufacturer recommends they don't force to use it.

VW suggests 5W30 that is already too thin for VW engines and they had problems with lubrications earlier. I always used 5W40 and never added any extra oil or head problem with leaking. My first car used to have over 300k on ODO...my latest is heavily abused with over 250k on ODO

More important than oil spec is correct interval:

5000km if short trips are made
8000km combined
12000km max if driven at least 100km trips

engine oil, filters, including air filter are cheap and most misunderstood.

Basically, any cheap/premium oil is good for 10k km unless you drive short trips with TDi...you would be surprised but there is still many confused drivers that believe TDi is for driving 100m to shop.

Oil lab tests of Mobil 1 5w-50 showed promising results with 13k km at full load racing fun. I have never seen better normal oil so far. LiquiMoly is no where near Mobil 1...I wonder about last Liqui Moly special oil...we will see in 3000km
that mobil 1 5w50 is actually a cool stuff, im gonna use it on ALH next time
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Old September 27th, 2018, 07:17   #32
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Total has a Quartz 7000 oil that's a 5w50. I used to use it in my ALH for track days. Not sure they still make it, however.
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Old September 29th, 2018, 12:24   #33
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For reference, I came across this AUDI technical bulletin from October 2017 about oils that meet the various standards:

https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam/...-1.22.2018.pdf
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Old September 30th, 2018, 17:11   #34
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For reference, I came across this AUDI technical bulletin from October 2017 about oils that meet the various standards:
https://www.audiusa.com/content/dam/...-1.22.2018.pdf
Thank you for the link noelchenier. Just be mindful please that this technical bulletin along with others that have been posted here recently (in the last year or so) are not only all-inclusive but also out of date or inaccurate. As an example the Pennzoil entry for VW 504/507 shows as 'Pennzoil Platinum VX'. In reality Pennzoil/Shell no longer carries this oil but this one that has the VW 504/507 approval:

Pennzoil Platinum Euro LX

Which can be found online in places like Advanced Auto Parts and Walmart.

In addition now Mobil 1 ESP X1 0W-30 has the VW 504/507 approval.
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Old October 5th, 2018, 16:03   #35
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I have seen my old owner's manual and no engine oil exists for my car anymore :-D

they change oil recommendations along they way what needs to be sold...now, it suppose to be VW505.01
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If they are worrying about zinc contenet,,Shell Rotella T has massive amounts of zinc. We use this in our race car engines and have for years...never a problem
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Zinc content may be the same, but keep in mind that Rotella T6's forumlation has changed significantly in recent years.
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