Hybrid Pickup/SUV=oxymoron
I agree with the 'move on' part of your comment!How many threads do you need for you to bash the styling of the Passat? We get it, you don't like it, move on. Thanks for your constructive contribution to this thread and this forum in general.
I can't imagine that 5mm more on either side of the wheel would be problem, IMHO.
well....pretty economical for a pick up. Looks to me like Chevy is doing many things right. Sales are up, jobs are up, profits are up and I do believe that some of those profits are plowed back into YOUR local economy. yeah, we all love TDIs but please dont downplay the American renaissance in cars and trucks. It's good for the Canadian and USA economy and is helping lower unemployment. Is it perfect ? Nope. My 2 chevys have been perfect though and by the looks of it many americans are visiting GM showrooms by recent numbers. #1 in the world in Sales. #1 profitability in history. Not bad in tough economy. Fall like a rock? uuuhhhh.... maybe rise like a ROCK STAR. And the Diesel Cruze is coming next year....and may be a decent car.
Boy, the boys get all twisted when we make comments about their sweet ride dont they.....Hey I am the biggest defender of TDI Crs.....I just dont get the Passat....Sat in it yesterday at The Toronto Auto show and my feelings have not changed. Its a "great" value but feels ohhhh....so cheap compared to Golf, CC, EOS, Tiguan etc... (Jetta is in same league )....The doors feel tiny the trim feels lesser...lots of cheaper plastic... than other VWs of the past....but ...Hey I get it....cut it down and sell more....It's funny how the amarican manufacturers are contenting UP and the germans are contenting DOWN....just wish you could get a TDI in a new Cadillac ATS.....At the end of the day I am puzzled why VW would not spend 800 bucks more on the interior trim and sound deadening and sell a more complete package for 10 bucks more per month.
True Patriotic American.
Well I've got more American built cars in my garage than youTrue Patriotic American.LOL!
Sheesh your political colors show through again. They were LOANS not BAILOUTS, which they have/are repaying.
Wall Street got the BAILOUTS and NEVER have to pay it back.
Besides what about all those TAX benefits/discounts VW got From TN to move the plant there? Don't mention that... Hmmmm. VW subsidized by tax dollars too.
Actually, my garage is full of US built cars right now, 3 of them. The VW is outside on timeout due to bad behavior.
Let's be clear. Loans are repaid in full. Every penny LOANED is recouped with interest. Of the $80B auto bailout, $14B of taxpayer dollars will not be repaid. Is this new math?
Since your car's production is several months away, there may very well be different tires on the car...who knows?
good point....but i drive as many on here drive many cars....seems to me that VW does not have a major problem here...maybe a problem amongst fussy forum members....I just drove my golf 386 kms today on avaerage ontario roads with SNOWS on all 4 corners with the radio off and myself and passenger had an almost hushed conversation....bit of wind noise on cross winds on drivers side but nothing brutal. I think the challenge is that cars have become SOO good and soo refined that we hear every little thing. my quietst car on the road by far at 80mph? are ya ready? my new camaro SS.....virtually NO noise and absolutely NO cross wind noise of any kind....just that subtle exhaust drone but road and wind very hushed....no kidding.
Well, maybe. The engine on IBW is a lot louder than the '12, especially with the breathing mods I have. And there's no doubt the Golf is quieter overall. But the noise manifests itself in odd ways. I was driving out of Boston last Saturday and was in the left lane beside a Jersey barrier, and there was enough noise reflected into the car that I thought my window was down a bit. It wasn't. Maybe I wouldn't even have heard that in the wagon because of other noise.
I'm only going to do the summer-winter switch thing, because of the crappy tires vdub is giving me. Blizzaks and the like wear their tread out quickly, and from what I've read, so will the Hankooks. After that, I'll be on true all-season tires, that are just fine in the snow, year-round. I'm also a native of Minnesota, so I drive around the wimps here in DC as they crawl along the freeways in a light dusting. When we move to Washington State, they require chains in the mountains, so there's no need for snow tires.
And it would be "best" if the other thousand compromises in any car were otherwise. The steel used in cars is not ideal, it's a compromise of cheapness, strength, flexibility resistance to metal fatigue, etc. Why not make cars of titanium and carbon fiber? Most materials in cars are calculated to only last a certain time. Given the lifespan of cars, why put extremely durable materials in the car and have to raise the price? Safety is a compromise. It's been known for a long time that if cars incorporated roll cages and five-point harnesses and were forced to wear Nomex suits like race drivers, a significant number of traffic fatalities could be prevented. I'm sure you can fill in the rest of the blanks for yourself. Do all these things and the sticker on a Passat would have as many digits as a Bugatti Veyron.
