DSG codes

driving back from north dakota.


cold as F!, so when i parked at the rest stop to grab 30mins of sleep, i woke up to a triangle on dash, warngin on console. i turned car off, back on, warnings gone, seems to drive ok, but vcds shows this in history. i cannot remember the 1st word, but the 2nd one was transmission, and obviously that area of car was highlighted in orange/yellow.


Saturday,24,November,2018,03:31:58:13856
VCDS Version Release 18.9.0 Running on Windows XP x86(VirtualBox)
www.Ross-Tech.com
Jason's Workshop
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 0D9-927-770.clb
Control Module Part Number: 0D9 300 041 N HW: 02E 927 770 AQ
Component and/or Version: DQ250-6F MQB H53 4512
Software Coding: 0014
Work Shop Code: WSC 00066 790 00202
ASAM Dataset: EV_TCMDQ250021 001001 (VW37)
ROD: EV_TCMDQ250021.rod
VCID: 236B14C92AE3D852E8-8077
2 Faults Found:

10906 - Cooling Oil Valve
P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21197 - Transmission Control Unit
P1701 00 [008] - Locked
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 54570 km
Date: 2018.11.24
Time: 03:20:37



fuzz under 34K miles. very odd all this goofy **** is happening just before warranty...

warning is gone, i didn't clear codes, is it worth it to make a stink at the dealer? unfortunately i didn't take a photo with the phone. the ass**** that ive been working with says they can't do anything unless theres a 'check engine LIGHT", but in this scenario it's not emissions related, hence no light, just warning triangle and console message.

luckily there's stored history.

it is not the best plan to idle this car for 30 minutes.


that given, a one-time error that does not come back is not much to worry about.


you can scan once in a while. and see if that fault frequency increases if not, you can ignore.


like they say, it is hard to fix it if it aint broke

I found nothing in the vw manual regarding idle time limits.

If this was 8hrs sleeping, yeah.

If it was 30mins, I don't think these cars would be available for purchase in cities or such cluster fuk and rush hour traffic.

Should I consider filing a law suit with the state of Michigan?

I196 has been in such ridiculous construction I've spent 30mins just clearing the on ramp the past 2 months.

Sorry, I'm not being sold on the 30mins as part of the problem.

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Sure file a law suit and make as big a stink as you can with anyone involved. See where that gets you.

You posted you had one of these same codes long ago, so I would doubt it is due to just the idling you describe.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=477448

When the lights come on get a picture and head for the dealer. You aren't alone either. Here is a TSB.

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2013/SB-10054213-2278.pdf

Law suit was a joke regarding the 30 minutes of idling.

Any idea why the system locked? The post you quoted didn't concern me as much, as now I'm getting these codes again, but now with audible alarms, warning triangle, and pictures on the screen... The oil cooler code I'm not worried about, the system saying it's locked seems not good...



I'm stuck in Wisconsin.... No gear shift, and I'm behind a 6sp, not 7, unless reverse counts...

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Did you take pictures? Do that first. Call the dealer for a tow. Then here is some reading.

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/18109/P1701

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/6-Speed_Automatic_Transmission_(01J/Multitronic)

https://www.engine-codes.com/p1701.html

Sounds like you have issues that need to be addressed by the dealer. Now that you have check engine lights they should be able to help you.

I made it back.

Just kept clearing the trans module.

Randomly goes into limp mode.

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didn't you install a coolant heater?

maybe that's the cause of your issues.

Which issue?

Oil cooler happened since car was new off the lot.

The transmission lockout code seems unrelated.

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Well it was tough to know the oil coolant valve code was since new, you removed all the time stamp information.

for the P1701 looks like it's either an electronic issue or Component protection issue, almost kinda suprised you can clear it and motor on.

Sounds like you got yourself a nice "high maintenance" TDI. Also with the DSG issues hopefully the dealer doesn't factor in a trailer hitch and deny warranty issue for unapproved towing.

Time and date is listed?

I should just pm you instead of the dealer.

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740GLE said:

Well it was tough to know the oil coolant valve code was since new, you removed all the time stamp information.

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Looks like the full VCDS posting would of been nice here, except you saw fit to edit out pertinent info. Told you so. Then once again, snarky with those trying to help you.

New heater core, new cabin filter, new door gaskets, both rear doors done now.

Component protection was possibly caused from barrel lock loose on mechatronics harness.

Shook my hand with my custom trailer hitch install and trailer brake install with proper coding.

New oem bars, car wash, and vacuumed.


$0.00



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jason_ said:

Time and date is listed?

I should just pm you instead of the dealer.

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10906 - Cooling Oil Valve
P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21197 - Transmission Control Unit
P1701 00 [008] - Locked
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 54570 km
Date: 2018.11.24
Time: 03:20:37

see something different between the two codes you provided?

If that oil cooling valve has a mileage stamp of 10km or something with a fualt frequency of 3000 or something, I would have know it wasn't a new code.

Garbage in garbage out.

Sounds like the dealer was able to help you out, did they offer any idea of the lose connector?

Lightflyer1 said:

Looks like the full VCDS posting would of been nice here, except you saw fit to edit out pertinent info. Told you so. Then once again, snarky with those trying to help you.

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740GLE said:

Well it was tough to know the oil coolant valve code was since new, you removed all the time stamp information.

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Do you see nothing?

I do!

It appears I forgot nothing when I used copy and paste. A relief for me. Thought I was the one making a mistake. Whew!

So now I wonder who's at fault? Vw or ross tech?

Ideas?



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was your car is running when you pulled those codes or was it in ACC?

Oh, I was making the point there's no mileage or timestamp information stored for the oil cooler valve code, actually, seems for alot of transmission codes

There's the concern that I was I removing some information from scans. No. I'm not. I supplied all information.



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VCDS will toss tons of false codes especially for a DSG if you scan it while running instead of in ACC, not sure if that was the same for that coolant oil valve.

Does running or acc mode change whether the computer chooses to store timestamp and/or mileage information in the fault code freeze frame data?


The concern here is the fact I've been blamed (from more than one forum member) for removing information from my scans when using copy and paste, and my previous posted screen shots, which are not editable, clearly verifies that I most certainly have not.

740GLE said:

10906 - Cooling Oil Valve
P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

21197 - Transmission Control Unit
P1701 00 [008] - Locked
Intermittent - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 54570 km
Date: 2018.11.24
Time: 03:20:37

see something different between the two codes you provided?

If that oil cooling valve has a mileage stamp of 10km or something with a fualt frequency of 3000 or something, I would have know it wasn't a new code.

Garbage in garbage out.

Sounds like the dealer was able to help you out, did they offer any idea of the lose connector?

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Lightflyer1 said:

Looks like the full VCDS posting would of been nice here, except you saw fit to edit out pertinent info. Told you so. Then once again, snarky with those trying to help you.

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740GLE said:

Well it was tough to know the oil coolant valve code was since new, you removed all the time stamp information.

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jason_ said:

10906 - Cooling Oil Valve
P179D 00 [002] - Electrical Malfunction
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear

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jason_ said:

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I suggested you post the whole scan as is usually requested. The edited out comment was you edited out the whole rest of the scan, not time stamp info or any other discrete info.

That was the entire unedited scan of the transmission module.

Unless you're speaking of the other modules in the vehicle.

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I am talking about the whole scan of the car. Not parts of it. That is kind of what whole means, not part but all of it. You know what I mean as I told you this in the other thread you posted in too.

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?p=5464772#post5464772

jason_ said:

Does running or acc mode change whether the computer chooses to store timestamp and/or mileage information in the fault code freeze frame data?


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Not sure if they don't have time stamps. But properly reading codes in ACC does remove a slew of false positive codes and then makes it easy to pin point the issues. Don't worry its a common mistake. I think the only time you'd want the car running with VCDS is if you want to do logs. Remember we're just trying to help.

The extra codes wasnt the focus or concern

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Just trying to help you out next time you read codes, and sorry I picked up on the other erroneous code you listed, my head was going towards some issue with the coolant system and maybe the car doing a regen while you slept.

It's best you had the dealer address that connector. while it was simple fix, anything with the DSG isn't covered by the emissions warranty.