drucifer
Veteran Member
I don't participate on Facebook or any other social media or so I thought.
I ask everyone
Is this social media and why or why not?
Andrew
I ask everyone
Is this social media and why or why not?
Andrew
Is this social media
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jokila
Vendor
I say no. Why don't you define what you think social media is?
This is an online forum. Something that has been around before the Internet, except back then it might have been called a Bulletin Board System (BBS). It wasn't online in the sense we have defined it today, but it was done on a computer through a connection to another system so people could share information.
Sharing information on a forum is not in the truest sense called social media.
This is an online forum. Something that has been around before the Internet, except back then it might have been called a Bulletin Board System (BBS). It wasn't online in the sense we have defined it today, but it was done on a computer through a connection to another system so people could share information.
Sharing information on a forum is not in the truest sense called social media.
Rrusse11
Veteran Member
I would say this is social media. Individuals sharing information is social IMO, our interactions on this forum are shared, it is a very public place. We happen to have a mutual interest, and for the most part we discuss our TDI's.
A bulletin board it may be, but I'd certainly call that "media". The World Wide Web, or Internet if you will, has opened up our range of interactions, we are a social primate. The depth, breadth, and scope of experience, opinions and knowledge on this forum is extraordinary. I find it extremely valuable.
My $.02.
A bulletin board it may be, but I'd certainly call that "media". The World Wide Web, or Internet if you will, has opened up our range of interactions, we are a social primate. The depth, breadth, and scope of experience, opinions and knowledge on this forum is extraordinary. I find it extremely valuable.
My $.02.
BobnOH
not-a-mechanic
If you read and post, yes, you're participating in social media. If you just read I'd say no.
Forums like this did exist before the term Social Media became vogue.
Wikipedia-
Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks.
Forums like this did exist before the term Social Media became vogue.
Wikipedia-
Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks.
jokila
Vendor
Social media to me is the context that you post for the benefit of getting information out to others. Facebook, Instagram, Myspace, etc. are centered around you sharing information as the central point and you can interact based on those posts/photos/messages.
An online forum like this one is not. Sure, we share information, but nothing here is centered around each person. The online component does not make it social media. I see different interpretations of what social media is. I don't think Wikipedia is the definitive definition.
An online forum like this one is not. Sure, we share information, but nothing here is centered around each person. The online component does not make it social media. I see different interpretations of what social media is. I don't think Wikipedia is the definitive definition.
IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
FWIW, as a vendor we categorize forums as social media. I think other companies do, too.
Ol'Rattler
Top Post Dawg
I would say no. I think publicly shared media would be a more appropriate definition of this forum. The "social" aspect of shared media does not seem to be the intent of this forum.
drucifer
Veteran Member
Because of all the stories of people posting pics of what they had at Applebee's or how wonderful their lives are or people downight being rude, obnoxious or bullying I decided not to open that can of worms.
I'm glad to be here though even if it may be social media.
I'm glad to be here though even if it may be social media.
Mongler98
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although this type of website, a forum based, is social media category, i would say do to the nature of how small this is compared to what we deem as typical social media, this is a sub level for sure. TO get to the point of why you asked, i would not say it is because you dont do that, yet you post here, that means by your definition this can not be the social media you cant post on.
This website is like saying, facebook that you can only post about cats and cat related things.
This website is like saying, facebook that you can only post about cats and cat related things.
maxmoo
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Interesting question and some great answers.
Should add a poll on the first post......I vote yes.
It is media and definitely social....at times... for some.
Should add a poll on the first post......I vote yes.
It is media and definitely social....at times... for some.
drucifer
Veteran Member
Knock yourself out maxmoo.
jerrymander
Veteran Member
Technically, yes this is social media. But I voted "no", because social media is one of those neato buzzwords like "cloud" or "web 2.0". This is an internet forum.
Mongler98
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HA, its been 6 years since i have heard or read the works "web 2.0"
Rembrant
Veteran Member
Social Media is even worse than you think it is. Of all the official social media, I only ever took part in Facebook, and I deleted that several years ago now. It's a bad habit...lol.
This forum, or forums like this one, are not social media imho. I can see how it could be categorized as such as IBW says above, but to me personally, it is not.
Tdijarhead
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I say no, but then I don’t want to call it social media. I despise Facebook and related anti-social media. I sat in my car in the parking lot last night waiting for my wife and daughter to exit a craft type store. Almost everyone who pulled up in the lot, just had to check their phone before going in, sometimes sitting for several minutes.
Does Facebook help people with any kind of problems technical or otherwise as happens here?
Does Facebook help people with any kind of problems technical or otherwise as happens here?
dubStrom
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overlapping content, but distinct
A forum has some things in common with social media, but a forum is not shallow and transient (frivolous). A forum provides a venue for sharing knowledge, not just events.
This forum is an excellent example of a valuable resource for in depth and thorough presentation of useful information to learn about complex problems, and actually get things done. We use youtube, photohosting resources and other internet/forum references to enhance the content of our posts in ways that social media is just not designed for. Social media is compatible with/made for cell phones. Forum topics oriented towards doing automotive research really benefit from computer monitor quality, not small rectangular screens! Yes, you can use your cell phone for this forum, but a big screen is better for most projects.
One manifestation of this difference is the amount of time that you spend doing research on a topic on this forum. Contrast that with the transient uselessness of social media, the difference becomes more clear. Social media wastes time, whereas a good forum delivers valuable content.
Another distinct difference... no one here will have a traffic accident caused by trying to post or read a post on TDIClub forums.
A forum has some things in common with social media, but a forum is not shallow and transient (frivolous). A forum provides a venue for sharing knowledge, not just events.
This forum is an excellent example of a valuable resource for in depth and thorough presentation of useful information to learn about complex problems, and actually get things done. We use youtube, photohosting resources and other internet/forum references to enhance the content of our posts in ways that social media is just not designed for. Social media is compatible with/made for cell phones. Forum topics oriented towards doing automotive research really benefit from computer monitor quality, not small rectangular screens! Yes, you can use your cell phone for this forum, but a big screen is better for most projects.
One manifestation of this difference is the amount of time that you spend doing research on a topic on this forum. Contrast that with the transient uselessness of social media, the difference becomes more clear. Social media wastes time, whereas a good forum delivers valuable content.
Another distinct difference... no one here will have a traffic accident caused by trying to post or read a post on TDIClub forums.
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Ol'Rattler
Top Post Dawg
Ah, no. all Facebook does is vacuums brain cells out of their feeble little brains.
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AdinaFloyd
Well-known member
I see this site as a place for knowledge, to help and be helped. I see facebook as a timewaster.
CoolAirVw
Vendor
this is social media. Its "themed", to a specific group, but still social media.
IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
There are a bunch of enthusiast facebook pages for TDIs and other diesels, pages like this: https://www.facebook.com/groups/24097854515/?ref=bookmarks
Many of them are closed groups, available only by invitation. The link I provided may not work because of this, it's hard for me to tell since I'm automatically logged in.
I'm guilty of sitting in my car checking my phone on occasion. We use text-based messaging at IDParts, it's a primary way for us to communicate within the company. So I need to check my phone when I'm not moving.
And don't think you can't post on TDIClub while driving. It would be a challenge, but I'm willing to bet people have done it.
Many of them are closed groups, available only by invitation. The link I provided may not work because of this, it's hard for me to tell since I'm automatically logged in.
I'm guilty of sitting in my car checking my phone on occasion. We use text-based messaging at IDParts, it's a primary way for us to communicate within the company. So I need to check my phone when I'm not moving.
And don't think you can't post on TDIClub while driving. It would be a challenge, but I'm willing to bet people have done it.
Rrusse11
Veteran Member
To the naysayers, you may well be entitled to say and think what you like, although the 1st Amendment does have limitations, and the Thought Police ain't here yet. You are not entitled to your own definitions of language however, semantics matter, this is why there
are dictionaries.
Facebook may be reviled by some, but it is only part of the much wider context of communications and interactions through
the variety of platforms that are used. From the printed page to cuneiforms on clay tablets to our screens.
Media is a record that can be observed by others, the Kalahari Bushmen can read a lot from tracks in the sand. For them it's an open book that there society relies on.
Blazing a trail is a form of "social media". A message to others.
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are dictionaries.
Facebook may be reviled by some, but it is only part of the much wider context of communications and interactions through
the variety of platforms that are used. From the printed page to cuneiforms on clay tablets to our screens.
Media is a record that can be observed by others, the Kalahari Bushmen can read a lot from tracks in the sand. For them it's an open book that there society relies on.
Blazing a trail is a form of "social media". A message to others.
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Ol'Rattler
Top Post Dawg
What are you rambling about? This site is not social media because it's intent is not about social interactions between people. A more correct description of this site would be "Industrial Media" (citation #1) or "Publicly Shared Media" (no Citation).
Social Media definition from the Merriam Webster dictionary. (Citation #2)
Both forms of media, Social and Industrial, share some of the same aspects, but are two different types of shared media.
Social Media definition from the Merriam Webster dictionary. (Citation #2)
Both forms of media, Social and Industrial, share some of the same aspects, but are two different types of shared media.
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IndigoBlueWagon
TDIClub Enthusiast, Principal IDParts, Vendor , w/
From your first link:
Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks. The variety of stand-alone and built-in social media services currently available introduces challenges of definition; however, there are some common features:[1]
Social media are computer-mediated technologies that facilitate the creation and sharing of information, ideas, career interests and other forms of expression via virtual communities and networks. The variety of stand-alone and built-in social media services currently available introduces challenges of definition; however, there are some common features:[1]
- Social media are interactive Web 2.0 Internet-based applications.[1][2]
- User-generated content, such as text posts or comments, digital photos or videos, and data generated through all online interactions, are the lifeblood of social media.[1][2]
- Users create service-specific profiles for the website or app that are designed and maintained by the social media organization.[1][3]
- Social media facilitate the development of online social networks by connecting a user's profile with those of other individuals or groups.[1][3]
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maxmoo
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Rrusse11
Veteran Member
Poignant and all too true.
I may be rambling Ol' Rattler from out here over the bleachers in
left field with my literalism, but when was the last time you consulted
a dictionary? {
)Thoughtful debate coupled with a certain amount of introspection is always healthy IMO. Downright educational for all parties!
Ol'Rattler
Top Post Dawg
Read the entire citation under Business Potential.............
Social Media and Publicly Shared Media share the same delivery methods. Your post addresses the delivery method, not the content.
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Ol'Rattler
Top Post Dawg
Citation #2 of my first post.
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KLXD
Top Post Dawg
Five minutes of my life gone. Irretrievably lost reading this thread.
I hope there's no lasting effect other than a sense of regret; no urge to join FB or something.
I could have spent that time reading a thread on rolling coall
I hope there's no lasting effect other than a sense of regret; no urge to join FB or something.
I could have spent that time reading a thread on rolling coall
fouillard13
Veteran Member
So if the general consensus is "yes". Are you gonna delete this too?! ?