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Old November 14th, 2006, 18:35   #1
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Default Calling all Michelin Hydroedge past and present users

I am very close to buying this tire. I'm worried about snow performance: the tread seems very tight and looks like it would clog. Does anybody have any experience?
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Yes, I know it isn't a snow tire, but I don't want them to be a severe danger every time some snow is on the ground. For instance, I consider my michelin harmony (similar to exalto) more than adequate when new in the snow. I'm looking for exalto/harmony level performance, not snow tire performance
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Old November 14th, 2006, 19:24   #2
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When I bought my 04 Jetta it had the Hydroedge tires on it. I have not experienced any snow/ice in my area yet this winter. I was never a Michelin fan before I bought this car but now I wil only buy Michelin tires in the future. I'll let you know this, driving the hydroedge in a Kansas thunderstorm with pouring rain and hail the car was rock solid and planted to the road just like there was no water on it at all. I felt completely safe traveling at the posted speed limit (70mph). Check out the surveys on tire rack.com for the hydroedge, some drivers on there have driven them in the snow. Good Luck
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Old November 14th, 2006, 19:46   #3
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I don't have them on my Passat, but I do have them on my 2002 Mazda MPV minivan. I have not had any problems with them in rain or snow. Slightly noisier than the original OEM tires (Dunlops - I hated them...), but that's a minor trade off dfor the superior all-weather performance.
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Old November 14th, 2006, 19:49   #4
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I have these on my car. They don't seem to be super in snow.. being wider and with the narrow tread. But I can get around. The rain performance is AMAZING.

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Old November 14th, 2006, 21:06   #5
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I've been very tempted to buy them, but...

They only have an 89 load rating, and our cars are designed for 91...

Since we have a wagon (which weighs a bit more than the other A4's and occasionally is used to carry stuff), we decided to err on the side of caution in this regard and bought the MXV4's yet again...

The Hydroedge tires seem to be very, very good... (from everything I've read about them...)

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Old November 15th, 2006, 05:29   #6
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I've been very tempted to buy them, but...

They only have an 89 load rating, and our cars are designed for 91...

Since we have a wagon (which weighs a bit more than the other A4's and occasionally is used to carry stuff), we decided to err on the side of caution in this regard and bought the MXV4's yet again...

The Hydroedge tires seem to be very, very good... (from everything I've read about them...)

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89 load rating? That's seems low. What size were you looking at? The 215/60R17s on my Mazda have a load rating of 96. The OEM dunlops were less than that. However the speed rating of the Michelins are T (118 mph) and the Dunlops were H (130 mph). But, I know I am safe given the Michelins have a better load rating and the MPV can't get anywhere close to 130 because it is wind drag limited to 108...
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Old November 15th, 2006, 06:15   #7
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Yup, their 89. You have to step up to exalto's to get 91.
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Old November 16th, 2006, 00:52   #8
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The Michelin Energy MXV Plus's also are 91 and are touted for their snow traction even though they are all-season. Best all around tire IMO. So far am on my fourth set and ready to get a fifth.

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Old November 16th, 2006, 18:08   #9
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Two years ago I advised my friend to get the MXV4's on his Toyota Avalon (!!!). This time around I turned him on to the Exalto A/S. He agrees with my findings - incredible in rain and handling, and he's happy with the change. He said they're not as comfy as the MXV4's, but the change saved him close to $200 on the set at Costco.

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Two years ago I advised my friend to get the MXV4's on his Toyota Avalon (!!!). This time around I turned him on to the Exalto A/S. He agrees with my findings - incredible in rain and handling, and he's happy with the change. He said they're not as comfy as the MXV4's, but the change saved him close to $200 on the set at Costco.

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Yeah, smooth ride but predictable handling is the MXV4's strong point, as well as longevity and traction with good fuel economy.

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Old November 16th, 2006, 19:17   #11
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We put a new set of hydroedge's on my girlfriends 02 Jetta, and in the heavy summer rains down here in FL, they are fantastic. That's there intended use as you already said, so I'm not too sure about the snow.
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Old November 17th, 2006, 06:50   #12
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I have a set of Hydroedges on the wife's Buick, and we love them. Unfortunately, due to the too low a load wating for the size for the Jetta, I won't put them on it. Occassionally, we really load down the Jetta when we travel.

I'll look into the same Energys, or the Pilots.

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Old November 17th, 2006, 17:41   #13
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getting the exalto's on Monday.
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Old November 25th, 2006, 07:59   #14
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You won't be disapointed with the Exalto A/S, I had Hydroedge and swiched to the Exalto and love them, they handle better in all conditions including heavy rain .
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Old November 25th, 2006, 19:30   #15
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got them, definate break-in but they are very nice now. Similar to harmony's they replaced but cheaper.

Very interested in their tread life on unmodified TDI and snow performance. Here in NH I should get a good idea of their snow performance before long...
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