ksing44
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Success!!! Congratulations seth1065!!! Good luck with your replacement vehicle and best wishes for the new year!!!
I am Fu** , HPFP dead
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edge130
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I think it's damn shame when something like this happens.
It' gets even worse when you think about all Gen 1 cars that will be turned in with good working HPFP's that will wind up in the crusher.
Think if VWOA would pull these pumps off the cars and make them available to owners in need.
My TDi will be going back in two weeks with a perfectly good pump, only to be crushed.
In all eight years of ownership, I always got out to ensure That diesel, and not gas was dispensed at refueling. (In NJ, you do not pump your own fuel)
It' gets even worse when you think about all Gen 1 cars that will be turned in with good working HPFP's that will wind up in the crusher.
Think if VWOA would pull these pumps off the cars and make them available to owners in need.
My TDi will be going back in two weeks with a perfectly good pump, only to be crushed.
In all eight years of ownership, I always got out to ensure That diesel, and not gas was dispensed at refueling. (In NJ, you do not pump your own fuel)
evantful
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Right now no one knows if they will be crushed because 'the fix' for the Gen 1's hasn't been resolved one way or the other. Second, even if the cars can't be fixed to a standard the EPA/CARB wants and will not be permitted for resale only the engine, ECU and emissions equipment need to be destroyed per the guidelines laid out. No one knows exactly if the engines can't be stripped of some of its components and even if that is the case the rest of the car can be used for salvage parts. So before we say all the cars are getting crushed, let the process finish.
edge130
Veteran Member
Look at the roadmap time line for 2015 model fix
IMO if and when a Gen 1 fix is approved, you're looking at modifications for cars that will be over 10 years old.
I tend to think a 2009 Gen 1 vehicle, like mine, will be put to rest.
IMO if and when a Gen 1 fix is approved, you're looking at modifications for cars that will be over 10 years old.
I tend to think a 2009 Gen 1 vehicle, like mine, will be put to rest.
Armby
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Whats your source for saying the TDIs bought back will be crushed without first saving the useful parts.
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Armby
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Your 2/3 right. It's the ECU and some emissions parts that cannot be resold. The rest of the car including the engine parts can be harvested. We do know that. It's in the agreement.
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jimbote
Certified Volkswagen Nut
has anyone tried running motor oil in the pump to just get it running? ... motor oil could increase viscosity enough for the pump to make starting pressure
evantful
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Even more to my point then, things like working HPFP can be saved.
seth1065
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- 2011 JSW with DSG, Panoroof, rear air bags and the always fun velcro blocks, Blue with beige int
I agree with you, regarding NJ fuel, I have every receipt for every filliup and always check the paperwork. In the end I just deducted the amount that my last hPFP cost to install from my buyback, would it have been nice if VW said just tow it in, yes but I understand they were not gonna do that.
QUOTE=edge130;5216405]I think it's damn shame when something like this happens.
It' gets even worse when you think about all Gen 1 cars that will be turned in with good working HPFP's that will wind up in the crusher.
Think if VWOA would pull these pumps off the cars and make them available to owners in need.
My TDi will be going back in two weeks with a perfectly good pump, only to be crushed.
In all eight years of ownership, I always got out to ensure That diesel, and not gas was dispensed at refueling. (In NJ, you do not pump your own fuel)[/QUOTE]
QUOTE=edge130;5216405]I think it's damn shame when something like this happens.
It' gets even worse when you think about all Gen 1 cars that will be turned in with good working HPFP's that will wind up in the crusher.
Think if VWOA would pull these pumps off the cars and make them available to owners in need.
My TDi will be going back in two weeks with a perfectly good pump, only to be crushed.
In all eight years of ownership, I always got out to ensure That diesel, and not gas was dispensed at refueling. (In NJ, you do not pump your own fuel)[/QUOTE]
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Smithers
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This seems like the correct thread to zombify.
2013 Passat TDI
116,000 miles
Buyback appointment scheduled for March
HPFP done blowed up yesterday. I cut the engine and coasted off to the shoulder of the interstate. Towed to dealer using extended roadside assistance. Dealer called back today - debris in the fuel system and it's a $5,400 job.
He then gave me an 800 number and suggested I call VW and that after June 28th, they were getting no latitude from VW as far as goodwill repairs (as if).
I've seen no reports of anyone getting any sort of satisfaction from VW in these situations. Did I miss anything? Suggestions?
Thanks.
Ugh.
2013 Passat TDI
116,000 miles
Buyback appointment scheduled for March
HPFP done blowed up yesterday. I cut the engine and coasted off to the shoulder of the interstate. Towed to dealer using extended roadside assistance. Dealer called back today - debris in the fuel system and it's a $5,400 job.
He then gave me an 800 number and suggested I call VW and that after June 28th, they were getting no latitude from VW as far as goodwill repairs (as if).
I've seen no reports of anyone getting any sort of satisfaction from VW in these situations. Did I miss anything? Suggestions?
Thanks.
Ugh.
2015vwgolfdiesel
Top Post Dawg
2 dead fuel pumps is more than ridiculous in 130,000 miles
Hoping the best for you
More and more (In my personal final decision) ~~ take the BB
And get a gasser
DanB36
Veteran Member
If you know a good indy shop, see what's the most bare-bones repair they can do that will get it running for an hour. At a minimum, a used HPFP install, and probably injector cleaning, would be required, but you might be able to get away with only that. Then park the car, tow it to the dealer, and drive it only as much as they require to see that it can run.
Smithers
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The only indy I know and trust is nearly 100 miles away.
Well, it's unlikely that anyone can recommend a shop near "Lower Slobovia." (I like the "Lil Abner" reference.) You might want to share more information on your location in case someone here has a recommendation.
Smithers
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NE Illinois/SE Wisconsin. We moved here from Slobovia in 2004.
amstel78
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Which is why I parked my Golf at 135k miles and only drove it to the dealer at turn in. Sucks to be you bro. My only suggestion at this point is to replace the pump with a used one, clean the injectors, and hope it runs enough to limp it into the dealership.
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seth1065
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Op here sorry your got bite by the HPFP, you gotta go the indie route, 2 options how far will the Vw roadside towing go ? I think they added it w your signup for the goodwill cards (?) or get AAA plus which would get you 100 miles of towing, find a used pump and used injectors and replace them, then setup your buyback appointment w the closest dealer to your indie, I got my car running again for about $1200 but that was with a donated used pump, but my guess is labor is more pricey in metro ny than where you are, vw corp will do nothing for you, I was lucky in that I had another car to drive when my Tdi died, feel free to PM me if you need more info, good luck.
Smithers,
You might want to check out this thread:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=473502
You might want to check out this thread:
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=473502
Smithers
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Thanks. Jason has worked on my cars plenty of times. The current situation makes the distance an issue.
Just a follow-up -bought a set of used parts (pump, injectors, lines) from a member here ($500), and after much procrastinating, finally admitted to myself that I wasnt going to do it myself, so brought it to a indie shop who knocked out the 'diy' procedure for me. They charged ~1300 total to tow, swap out parts, clean tank and lines, and new fuel filter. They were skeptical, but it turned out well, and I turned the car in yesterday.
No Pressure
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HPFP failure
I am in the same boat with my 2009 JSW. Hours after I uploaded my notarized buyback agreement, the HPFP self-destructed. Luckily, I was able to pull in to a parking lot. The car still ran but sounded awful. I had it towed to my local indie shop who confirmed what I feared. Was thinking that I would tow it a block from the dealer and try to turn it in, but it no longer starts. I am encouraged by others that have done the minimum to get their TDIs running and turned them in.
I already miss my JSW
UPDATE:
Bought a used HPFP off ebay and my indie installed it, flushed the lines, and replaced the fuel filter. The car started and ran a bit rough. Towed it 2 blocks from the dealer, drove it in, and completed the buy back.
I am in the same boat with my 2009 JSW. Hours after I uploaded my notarized buyback agreement, the HPFP self-destructed. Luckily, I was able to pull in to a parking lot. The car still ran but sounded awful. I had it towed to my local indie shop who confirmed what I feared. Was thinking that I would tow it a block from the dealer and try to turn it in, but it no longer starts. I am encouraged by others that have done the minimum to get their TDIs running and turned them in.
I already miss my JSW
UPDATE:
Bought a used HPFP off ebay and my indie installed it, flushed the lines, and replaced the fuel filter. The car started and ran a bit rough. Towed it 2 blocks from the dealer, drove it in, and completed the buy back.
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It's well beyond where my car currently is (82K) -- I don't recall the exact numnber but you're fine. (It has been extended by VW beyond the original warranty). I"m sure someone here can give you the number.
ksing44
Veteran Member
VW extended the warranty, but not for all cars. Based on the thread below, it was 2009 to 2012, not 2013 and beyond.
VW extended warranty on HPFP
VW extended warranty on HPFP
Rico567
Top Post Dawg
This is correct: our '13 Passat has extended warranties, but only on the turbocharger, DEF pump, and heater core (and I know that the heater core warranty is VIN specific, and for whatever reason doesn't cover ALL 2013s). The HPFP / fuel system is not covered by any extended warranty, AFAIK.
The warranty situation is complex, and of course none of the above covers the topic of post-fix warranties. Don't guess, know what your warranties are.
Exactly right.
ksing44
Veteran Member
^^Interestingly, even the dealer doesn't know what's covered after the fix. They said there are over 200 pages and even when you look carefully it's hard or impossible to find the answer. They had to call VW, which they did, and it all worked out for me. I got a new exhaust manifold on the warranty after the fix. I had the P2001 code.
Other good news, there was no comment about having an upgraded CP3 pump with the extra filter and no auxiliary pump. In my eyes, it was a good day for VW and my dealer! It was also a good day for me!
Other good news, there was no comment about having an upgraded CP3 pump with the extra filter and no auxiliary pump. In my eyes, it was a good day for VW and my dealer! It was also a good day for me!
Dealer tells me HPFP is ok but I need a new fuel return line check valve (around $550 parts & labor (actually that includes labor cost of mounting and balancing a tire on a wheel) and not covered by the HPFP warranty). I'm not thrilled but it's not a disaster and I'm glad I brought the car in. My main concern is I need this car running through end of summer (when my son heads off to college), and then I will sell it back to VW. (My fear is having the HPFP fail catasrophically and then VW denying warrantyh coverage because I tuned the car.)
Edit -- is this a ridiculous overcharge? I know they spent time both yesterday and today diagnosing the issue.
Edit -- is this a ridiculous overcharge? I know they spent time both yesterday and today diagnosing the issue.
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