MERCEDES-BENZ AMG DIESEL!!

Hell yeah, have you all seen this thing? http://www.mercedes-benz.com/amg/e/news/index.htm
There, check that out!! 231 HP, 530 Nm torque!!
A true diesel sports car, wrapped in C class clothing! Fuel economy of 30 mpg while attaining those numbers! I love those krauts, always making something better!! --Scott

Wow?! nobody cares!?!

Well I cant afford it, although it is tempting.

<font color="blue"> is one sweet car! </font>
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The combustion engine developed by Rudolf Diesel in 1936 celebrated its premiere in a Mercedes-Benz. In the year 2002 it is in peak form … in a Mercedes AMG.

This new competitor boasts a number of pioneering innovations, from the engine's mechanical system, its new ignition system and the electronics in the engine-management system.

The result: immense power, tremendous torque and unlimited driving pleasure. The 3-liter, 5-cylinder engine generates 170 kW (231 HP) of power and delivers an incredible 540 Nm of torque at just 2000 rpm.

Mercedes just got a serious problem.
Audi is launching a 4 liter V8 TDI with 275 hp and twisting 650 Nm.


Acceleration 0-80 km/h /4.5 0-100 km/h in sec.: / 6.7

6-speed tiptronic with DSP and additional sport program.

650 Newton metres not only make the A8 4.0 TDI quattro the highest-torque Audi in existence, but put it right at the top of its class. The 4.0 TDI engine is currently the highest-powered, highest-torque V8 diesel engine in any production saloon car.
from an excellent site
RS6.com

My Audi/VW-enginepage

Well, when was the last time Mercedes sent a manual transmission diesel to the States? I am an unregenerated stick snob. No stick, no sale. IF the Merecedes is available with a true manual transmission, NOT a "manumatic" then I would take a look at it. Of course I have a hard time justifying paying over 30k for a car, even though I could afford it. I am not happy about paying over 20k for the next TDI. Again, not a matter of what I could swing, more a matter of an idea.

"Sticking" the Audi a little bit wrong might be fatal with that torque.

In case there is a language barrier. When I said "stick snob" I meant manual transmission. I have never bought a car (or truck for that matter) with an automatic transmission. I think the last time Mercedes sold a diesel car in the US with a manual transmission was in 1973 and it might have been earlier than that.

MB sold manual 240Ds through the mid-'80s, I believe.

The new E320CDI coming to the USA in 2004 is rated at 240HP and 377LB-Ft of torque! And this is the stock rating, not an aftermarket tuner or even chipped! I would love to have one of these. I have always liked MB diesels, but the quality and reliability of MB's cars are not what they used to be. A friend of mine is a mechanic at a used MB dealership and he said that as they age, they get really expensive to maintain. It does sound like a great car though. Wonder what the 4L V8 is going to produce?!

In case there is a language barrier. When I said "stick snob" I meant manual transmission. I have never bought a car (or truck for that matter) with an automatic transmission. I think the last time Mercedes sold a diesel car in the US with a manual transmission was in 1973 and it might have been earlier than that.

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All 240Ds up into the 1980s were available with standard four speed transmissions.

The baby MBZ 190E 2.2 diesels of the mid 1980s came standard with a five-speed (overdrive) tranny. Not only was it much more economical than the older 240 diesels, but considerably quicker also. Should have kept the Gold colored 1985 65 HP model I had.

I think the last GASSERS sold in US with manual was in 1973.

I am seeking a 114/115 sedan with gasser/manual combo- hard to find.