Dieselgate, The Canadian Edition

VW's Giuffra: Scope of settlement is only in the US. We will address issues elsewhere differently - from McGee's tweet

NewEnglander said:

\Judge was not very sympathetic to people who think the valuations are too low.

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Some on here will say he is working for VW. lol

We will address issues elsewhere differently

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Start practicing bending over, grabbing socks ....

Steve Ferrous said:

Start practicing bending over, grabbing socks ....

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LOL!

Either that or we start polishing the pitchforks here in case VW decides to get revenge on Canadians.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/volkswagen-emissions-deal-court-1.3695595

News sources are also publishing articles (one included above for people like me who cant access twitter from work), although nothing new in it, they will most likely be updating it through out the day...fyi.

VW's Emissions Settlement Is a Raw Deal for Its Most Important Customers
Loyal, original owners are getting the short end of the stick.

I agree with linked above. VW is getting off lightly as far as consumers go. In every other transaction like this involving a defective product consumers recover purchase price and all taxes/fees. Why is this case different?

tobianogreg said:

VW's Emissions Settlement Is a Raw Deal for Its Most Important Customers
Loyal, original owners are getting the short end of the stick.

I agree with linked above. VW is getting off lightly as far as consumers go. In every other transaction like this involving a defective product consumers recover purchase price and all taxes/fees. Why is this case different?

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Probably because of the dollar amounts involved: that's the only reason that I could see. If you follow the example in the article, if Apple were to release a faulty product, they would have to buy it back at full retail, i.e. give the customer a full refund, even though the customer had use of the item.

Maybe in this case, they believe that people don't have to sell back the vehicle, and therefore should only be partially compensated. This is just my guess though.

Thinking the heavy lifting for CA class action starts now. Shouldn't take long to learn if VW changes its approach.

A similar buyback for Canada is the ONLY option. If we think that the value of our cars are low now, imagine when hundred of thousands of cars bought back in the USA are fixed by VW and put on the market for resale!

Throwing this out there: I wonder if Canada's settlement will move faster than the USA's assuming a similar deal is made (on the consumer side).

My logic there is our court system isn't the same (less complex overall) and they aren't dealing with 50+ states, as many lawsuits, less government lawsuits, etc. There are also less vehicles total here and less dealers to train/get ready.

Guess we'll know more Friday..

JohnNS said:

Throwing this out there: I wonder if Canada's settlement will move faster than the USA's assuming a similar deal is made (on the consumer side).

My logic there is our court system isn't the same (less complex overall) and they aren't dealing with 50+ states, as many lawsuits, less government lawsuits, etc. There are also less vehicles total here and less dealers to train/get ready.

Guess we'll know more Friday..

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I like your optimism

As long as VW is motivated I'm hoping you're correct John.

I'm hoping you can hold your breath a long time... I for one am not holding mine!

Here's the latest VW Canada news ... https://www.vwemissionsinfo.ca/news/u-s-settlement-update-july-26-2016/

Great deal for VW as opposed to going to jail for fraud, not just a defective product remember they actually deceived the country, the dealer and the buyer and admitted to it so charges should be laid.

This is an amusing Twitter feed (guy asking VW Canada if he needs to be part of a class action here):

https://twitter.com/VWCanadaTDI/status/758016019025764353

The response from VW is about what I would expect.

Hey, somebody started a related hashtag:

Sk'emqim (@Skemqim)
2016-07-26, 2:13 PM
Cause it's the right thing to do. @VWcanada @VWCanadaTDI #buybackmytdicanada

cha-CHING!

On July 29, the Ontario Superior Court of Justice is scheduled to receive an update from Volkswagen and the other parties on the progress of proceedings and discussions about affected 2.0L TDI vehicles in Canada. The Court has ordered the parties to keep the details of the discussions confidential.

Canadian customers do not need to take any action at this time.


I don't like the way that is written. Sound like we won't even find out what's happening.

Source: vwemissions.ca

Most of the websites for the law firms involved in the class action here are mentioning to look on their sites on or after July 29th for more information.

We should be hearing something on July 29th...now whether it is good news or bad news is another story.

FYI: https://www.strosbergco.com/class-actions/vw/whats-new.56eab6b305eac.htm

I just hope it's what officially going to happen here, whether it's a buyback or just compensation. I will be extremely upset if the update is "talks are going well, we hope to have a deal reached soon." I'm pretty sick of the lack of updates. It's been almost a year and we really haven't heard anything.

Anything less than buybacks/compensation and I will be sorely disappointed: given we have different systems here compared to the U.S. I would not expect an identical settlement. However, it had better contain some mention of buybacks in combination with compensation.

I'm no lawyer but the lack of news is thanks to them... Not VW's. If the wrong news leaks the other party becomes liable I'm guessing in the court of law.

As a long time diesel owner. I will add that unless your planning to sell your car on a short term cycle. Most purchaser's of a tdi had a long relationship in mind. So just drive the car and when news drops deal with it according to what life is dishing out now. If your like me and we get keep our cars with compensation, bonus. Since my car still has 10 years of life to go with a residual value of almost every other car on the road..... ZERO. I care less if my trade in value now is X or Y.

Taking a loss of vehicle into consideration by means of buy back. Life goes on and I will press my wife for a Golf R or GTI... My commute is both too short for a tdi and I car pool with the Mrs. If/when tdi's go back on sale I would get one for certain, after current choice since terms and deals are easier to get. On long summer road trips nothing beats a TDI... But I keep hearing those 1.4T gassers are pushing greatly mpgs... Decisions decisions.

I'll be quite disappointed as well if nothing concrete happens in terms of a buyback or compensation. We have 2 TDIs in the house - both used to do quite a bit of commuting, myself close to 200km per day. But those days are behind me, and as much as I've enjoyed VWs (I've only ever driven VWs since my first Golf when I was 17) this scandal has pushed me to move on. I'm replacing my Jetta with an EV next month.

Oh oh Chevy Cruze next up?

I guess we're all holding our breath for 48 hours!

b1jackson said:

It got awfully quiet in this thread!

Canadians be like.........

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We could always argue about the unknown possible options and call each other shills, trolls and VW agents.

When they first announed the buy back I thought that it was said that Canada would be a duplicate of the US?