Hope this help the car has no,key power, dash light or wiper action? do i need a expert electrical tdi member, scanner. thanks Jim i think i found problem on j317 power supply relay terminal 30,b+( in Bentley expensive book i tested relay panel socket I picked two 12 volt and 1 12 volt thee 4th hole i got 0. so i used track tool see what i could find. i din't pick up any on the side with all the wires, but on black side of plastic, the track sensed the wire up about 2" up. then it stopped, think found the problem, and what i do with it!!