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Old April 29th, 2018, 12:15   #1
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Anyone got pros and cons on buying a used 2015 golf tdi with less than 20k

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Old April 29th, 2018, 14:33   #2
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There are other threads on this question, but I'll chime in. I got a new 2015 in Orlando and drove it home. In comparison to my 2009 JSW TDI, this is tons better. Yep, it's more techy and that can go wrong. Power and torque are better, but the DSG on this one has a better gear ratio, so at about 100 km / hr, the engine is turning slower by about 250 rpm. The new engine on that first 10,000 km [6500 miles] was about 5 L / 100 km [46 MPG] The lighting package is wonderful and the auto wipers work perfectly. Better sound system. The first phase of the emissions fix is not noticeable other than there is a place to put urea in next to the fuel. A bit more solid feel, but jury is still out with the rear suspension. No problems yet, but no really loaded summer camping trips on frost heaved roads yet.
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Old April 30th, 2018, 20:00   #3
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I bought a fixed 2015 Passat from a dealer last October. It's been a great car.

Pros: great extended warranty on all the important stuff.

Cons: some mods will void the warranty.

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Old May 1st, 2018, 18:49   #4
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I drove a 2015 for two days as a loaner. Initially I couldn't figure out why it felt so anemic compared to my 2012. After all it's supposed to have ten more horsepowers. On the second day I realized that the gearing is 15% longer (or in Mike's words, 'better'). No wonder the 2015s get better diesel mileage. If that is all you are after, you'll be happy. I'm glad I kept my 2012.
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 03:21   #5
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I bought a '15 Jetta with 12,500 miles at the end of January. It's got 26,000 miles on it now, and it's been great so far. Great warranty, and a fantastic commuter car. I haven't had any issues yet.
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Old May 2nd, 2018, 16:31   #6
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Thanks for all the comments. I missed out on the deal. It was out of state. I love the tdi's and own a 1998 jetta and a 2003 golf. I do wonder about the value of 2015's going forward. If you buy to drive it want matter. With the price of diesel vs gas I guess the tsi is a consideration.

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Old May 2nd, 2018, 17:10   #7
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There are lots of '15s around, more arriving at dealers all the time. I test drove a '15 Passat Manual with 10K on it last Saturday. And I have a '15 GSW that I bought a year ago: it was a new car that sat at our local dealer for 18 months, but I'm the first owner. I have only 8K on it but I like it much better than the '12 Golf I owned previously. Lots of the same comments as Mike listed above. Only downside in my opinion is the smaller fuel tank. After years of driving vented MKIV and B4 cars it's hard to give up 700+ miles per tank.

I'd keep looking and grab one. They may be the last ones we see, at least for a while. (I'm optimistic). And if you find one with a manual transmission it'll hold its value really well.
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I haven't done any reading in the Dieselgate Forum but from other threads I got the impression that there was no fix for the manual equipped cars.
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I believe the only manual affected is the Passat prior to the 2015 changes (Gen-2?). 2015 manuals, and, iirc, Jetta/Golf/etc. Gen-1 manuals are fine and have a fix.
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It looks like 2015 tdi's manuals are hard to come by. Anyone know why VW when to automatics in such numbers? The last time I was in Europe automatics were hard to come by.
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96% of the cars sold in America are automatics. As manufacturers go, VW offers more cars with manuals than average. And it also builds more TDIs with manuals than other models, with the possible exceptions of the GTI and Golf R.

TDI buyers often want manuals, in part because, in the past, VW's TDI automatics were so lousy. That's not the case any longer, but manuals are still popular. So they get snapped up quickly and people tend to hold on to them.

However, smart dealers are buying more manuals than automatics at the bought back cars auctions. The dealer I was at the other day had more manual GSWs than automatics. And two manual '15 Passats.
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It looks like 2015 tdi's manuals are hard to come by. Anyone know why VW when to automatics in such numbers? The last time I was in Europe automatics were hard to come by.
The manuals are out there, but you have to go to the car where ever you find it. When you find the one you want, POUNCE, because it's a seller's market for those. That's what I did. Yeah, it cost me one-way airfare and a hotel, but it was worth it in the long run.

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Old May 3rd, 2018, 17:17   #13
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I will never trust a DSG. Period. Think about how complicated the '15's are already. DEF fluid, thermostatically controlled oil pump, slats in the cooling system to open and close. a much more difficult oil change procedure.. A dizzying array of extra sensors in the exhaust and emission standards that are insanely tight and its a one year unicorn. Yeah they may have produced them out of the country but so what? The people who tell you that dont have to worry about getting them fixed like the average joe does. THEN you have the DSG with its own issues and potential for disaster plus I dont care how fast it shifts, it will NEVER have the feel of an true manual nor the control. Add the fact that its way more expensive to modify and you have a ticking time bomb. Manuals will ALWAYS hold their value and are super easy to mod because you dont even need to worry about the transmission. If you are going to get a DSG, you might as well get a hybrid.
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Talking with customers the biggest failure point in DSGs is the same as it is in VW manuals-the DMF. Otherwise they seem pretty durable. You almost never hear of the clutches failing or wearing out. I'm not a fan of any automatic when I can have a manual, but the DSGs seem to do pretty well.
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DEF fluid, [snip]. a much more difficult oil change procedure. [snip.] Manuals will ALWAYS hold their value and are super easy to mod because you dont even need to worry about the transmission. If you are going to get a DSG, you might as well get a hybrid.
DEF on a NMS Passat is a lot easier to refill than the Touareg/Q7/Porsche variants. If you watch for a sale and stock up, DEF is as cheap as washer fluid.

The oil change on the CVCA is easier than the CKRA. Remove the stupid tie straps that hold the wiring harness in the way of the oil filter, and simply move the wiring harness out of the way and hold it out of the way with a short bungee cord. Then install reusable tie straps to put the harness back in place. A lot less messy than changing oil in the CKRA.

I love manual transmissions. I have owned a manual transmission car since 1975. But, I also live in a rural area where it's not an issue. No way I would have a stick shift in a large city.

Just my $.02

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