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Old January 31st, 2019, 07:01   #1
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Hi fellas,

This question is especially for GTA/Durham peeps. Have you ever had to use an anti-gel additive (I have a MK4 if that matters)? What is the one to get?

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Old January 31st, 2019, 07:52   #2
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I've never had to use it. But if you need to use something, Power Service has products readily available at Canadian Tire. There are also many other brands available that would work too.
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Old January 31st, 2019, 09:26   #3
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I really like "Howes Meaner Power Kleaner". It's more concentrated than most.
Improves mileage, performance, cleans and helps to prevent gelling.

I also change my fuel filter every fall so I have a new/clean one installed before the cold winter months.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/h...-0380941p.html
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Old January 31st, 2019, 09:40   #4
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I've never had to use it. But if you need to use something, Power Service has products readily available at Canadian Tire. There are also many other brands available that would work too.
+1 for Power Service, the white bottle/jug is what you want for winter:
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/p...0726p.html#srp

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I really like "Howes Meaner Power Kleaner".

helps to prevent gelling.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/h...-0380941p.html
Does not mention it on the product page about it having any anti-gelling properties?

https://www.howeslube.com/meanerpowerkleaner.php


This is their anti-gel product: https://www.howeslube.com/dieseltreat.php
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Old January 31st, 2019, 09:49   #5
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+1 for Power Service, the white bottle/jug is what you want for winter:
https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/p...0726p.html#srp



Does not mention it on the product page about it having any anti-gelling properties?


https://www.howeslube.com/meanerpowerkleaner.php

I know, but it really does prevent gelling.
We have used it for about a dozen years on agricultural equiptment, trucks and a fleet of TDI's....never had gelling on any vehicle with it in the fuel....and I have seen gelling when not used.
Read some of these reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/product-revie...e&pageNumber=1
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Old February 1st, 2019, 03:43   #6
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I have driven diesels since I started driving. Never used any anti-gel or additive. Can't ever remember it being necessary.
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Old February 3rd, 2019, 05:55   #7
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I used to drive truck for a living and we always added AntiGel as the manufactures only add the minimum. With the cold weather we have been having I think it is better safe than sorry.
I know Princess Auto sells the 1 liter bottle of Cleanflo which I keep in my trunk. Add a shot class worth every fill up. Never had a problem
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Old February 3rd, 2019, 13:57   #8
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Never added anything to the tank but diesel. 25 years of VW diesels and no issues.
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Old February 3rd, 2019, 15:06   #9
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Never added anything to the tank but diesel. 25 years of VW diesels and no issues.
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Old February 5th, 2019, 08:42   #10
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Gelling does occur. In that last cold snap was driving our F800 with a Cummins. Was driving but kept loosing power to the point of almost stalling. Pull over and idle for 2-3 minutes, power would return. Classic gelling symptom, engine heat will warm the fuel filter enough to melt gelling. Drive 5 or less minutes same symptom occur. Slow drive back to the shop. haha. Added 20L fresh winter diesel and warm from shop storage. All symptoms gone. Granted this truck was last used and filled up in early Fall, hence would have summer diesel.
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Old February 5th, 2019, 12:21   #11
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Gelling does occur. In that last cold snap was driving our F800 with a Cummins. Was driving but kept loosing power to the point of almost stalling. Pull over and idle for 2-3 minutes, power would return. Classic gelling symptom, engine heat will warm the fuel filter enough to melt gelling. Drive 5 or less minutes same symptom occur. Slow drive back to the shop. haha. Added 20L fresh winter diesel and warm from shop storage. All symptoms gone. Granted this truck was last used and filled up in early Fall, hence would have summer diesel.
Dude then thats what it must have been.
That's how the car feels. It seems to only really act up when cold.
My uncle admitted that he hasn't changed the fuel filter in a long time so that probably doesn't help.
I've listened to this podcast and the guys say Power Service is good enough.

https://youtu.be/5x_KtCVXjwE

TLDL: 2 "glugs" should do the trick at a quarter tank prior to filling up but like others say in this post, I'll do 4 to start. I'll also be replacing my fuel filter once every fall to keep this from happening but you just never know. I'd rather be safe than sorry esp with a kid on the way!
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Old February 6th, 2019, 06:42   #12
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Never had to use anything other than diesel from the local gas station. If your fuel is gelling than it's too old and doesn't have the additives that the refinery adds for the winter months. I can see this happening to farm equipment that sits for a long time with the same tank of diesel in it but shouldn't be happening to a daily driver.
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Never had to use anything other than diesel from the local gas station. If your fuel is gelling than it's too old and doesn't have the additives that the refinery adds for the winter months. I can see this happening to farm equipment that sits for a long time with the same tank of diesel in it but shouldn't be happening to a daily driver.
Maybe its something else. I notice that it lurches/hesitates even with the accelerator pedal to the floor during those few mins before cluster temp gauge shows 90. Is that just normal?

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Old February 6th, 2019, 08:26   #14
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I'll also be replacing my fuel filter once every fall to keep this from happening but you just never know.
For your 2001 TDI, the fuel filter should be replaced every 32K kms as per the VW maintenance schedule.
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Old February 7th, 2019, 08:11   #15
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I've had gelling once - suspect fuel was not treated at an Esso station. -35C. I was one of a few irritated owners who had fueled there when I went in to comment (complain) - got a shrug. I haven't gone back to an Esso station again.

I use normal dose PS White. After, I see they recommend double dosing when it is below 0F/-18C. I now do that and haven't had any problems. I also now carry Diesel 911 - just in case.
https://powerservice.com/psp_product...-cetane-boost/ then hit "directions" tab.
"Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost prevents fuel gelling and protects against fuel-filter icing."
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