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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old October 20th, 2017, 14:05   #16
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...some have had the intake arm ball popping out of the socket from the actuator also.
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...Not long after the fix, the plastic dogbone shaped actuator arm that connects the motor to the manifold got so sloppy it wouldn’t stay in place and started throwing codes....
Sure enough, the plastic arm on the ball was slipping off! I pushed it on with a screwdriver and the code has stayed off. I guess it's that plastic arm and ball, not the screw. But the question remains about the dealer noticing or caring about the screw. I can't see it looking carefully with the engine cover off. Maybe they'll just be happy for some easy warranty work?! That would be nice. It really is a new issue with the manifold that started after the fix!
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Old October 25th, 2017, 12:13   #17
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I have an appointment for this on thursday with the dealership. I will let you know how it goes. They said that it "should" be covered under the warranty.
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Old October 25th, 2017, 15:28   #18
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^^Thank you jeepnguy!

And good luck at the dealer!

After pushing the arm on the ball, my CEL has stayed off for quite a while now! That included a trip of over 1000 miles. Sooner or later I'm sure it will be back, but it's interesting that just pushing it back on worked so well so far. Hopefully I didn't just curse myself and it won't be on tomorrow morning!
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Old October 26th, 2017, 04:27   #19
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^^Thank you jeepnguy!
And good luck at the dealer!
After pushing the arm on the ball, my CEL has stayed off for quite a while now! That included a trip of over 1000 miles. Sooner or later I'm sure it will be back, but it's interesting that just pushing it back on worked so well so far. Hopefully I didn't just cure myself and it won't be on tomorrow morning!

hardest thing on that arm is short drives, as each shutdown it cycles thru the range, this is where it may pop off. During driving its constantly fluctuation dependent on throttle position.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 08:18   #20
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Back from the dealer. Replaced the Intake....little excessive, but, they said because it's attached to it, they feel it's better than the cheap fix. 100% covered, no questions. I did notice that when the light was on I had better MPG. Not sure if it was a coincidence.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 09:30   #21
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The dealer cant replace parts that are not in the parts book or not in the manual. VW won't pay for the warranty work if not done per the manuals, and the only part they show for this problem is the entire manifold. Yes excessive cost to fix. Imagine all the manifolds they replaced not under warranty telling people that was the only way to fix.

You had better MPG because the car probably was not doing regens with the fault. Also my MPG's just dropped because my last fill was with winter treated diesel.
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Old November 1st, 2017, 09:38   #22
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Thank you for the update! If only I didn't have a hole drilled in the motor for that screw. Too bad I didn't get the repair I asked for from the INDY! It's not the cause of the problem, but it could be an excuse not to provide a warranty repair.

I guess I'll give the dealer a try anyway. Maybe they'll just go ahead and fix it. They said they searched hard to find something wrong with my car before they did the fix and didn't find anything, so maybe now they'll just do the work. They'll get paid by VW, so maybe they'll just do it!
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Old December 5th, 2018, 10:24   #23
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[QUOTE=jeepnguy;5343913]Back from the dealer. Replaced the Intake....little excessive, but, they said because it's attached to it, they feel it's better than the cheap fix. 100% covered, no questions.

Under which warranty? The emissions or the 10 yr 60k mile one?
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Old December 5th, 2018, 10:33   #24
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I had my intake manifold replaced at 290K miles for free under the new warranty after my EPA recall on my '09 JSW 2.0 TDI.

As soon as they replaced it, I installed the aluminum bolt-on bracket on that prevents excessive arm travel from Diesel Geek (or Metal Nerd, I always confuse those two LOL).

That way I won't ever have to worry about the arm travel causing internal wear and repeat failure.
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Old December 5th, 2018, 13:27   #25
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I just called vw of america. They said it wasnt covered by the emmison warranty that it was only covered by the orignal 10 yr 60k mile one. Im at 79k miles so they wont cover it.
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Old December 5th, 2018, 13:30   #26
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I just called vw of america. They said it wasnt covered by the emmison warranty that it was only covered by the orignal 10 yr 60k mile one. Im at 79k miles so they wont cover it.
You're talking about a 2.0 Gen 1 TDI, right?

Tell them to re-read the TDI Fix Brochure.

It clearly says that any failure that throws a CEL code after the fix during the "fix" warranty period is covered.

It also says that disputes will be resolved in favor of the consumer.

I'll find the links to the document and give you page numbers to reference...

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https://www.vwdieselinfo.com/pdf/VWC...nual_Final.pdf

Look at "Page 9" titled "Parts Covered Under Extended Warranty", last bullet point:

- The On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) system, any malfunctions detected by the On-Board Diagnostic (OBD) system other than those related to the transmission
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Old December 5th, 2018, 14:32   #27
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Yeah its a 2012 golf. The car has about 5k on it since the fix was done. I saw that in part after I called them. I plan on taking this to my local dealer now then to voa if they dont want to replace it. I also have a rear seat belt that wont retract in they said thats only warranty for 35k miles. Seems crazy that a saftey item would have such a short warranty.

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Old December 5th, 2018, 17:48   #28
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you're on your own on the seatbelt.

Let us know the good news when you remind them of the OBD clause and how since the Intake is causing an OBD fault, it's covered!
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Old December 5th, 2018, 19:54   #29
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Yeah I figure the seat belt wasnt going to be replaced but I read thst some people got them replaced but didnt say how far out of warranty they was. Ill post what happens when I go.
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Old December 5th, 2018, 23:00   #30
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Have you tried pulling the belt out all the way and seeing if it is tangled? It won't increase the cost of any fix and might just save you the trouble.
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