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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old September 12th, 2017, 05:29   #16
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Just for fun I entered my 2015 into the portal and it says this vehicle is not eligible. This is what I would have expected. I didn't purchase the new 2015 a few months ago thinking I would make money again on it. The warranty definitely had a lot to do with my decision though. So all I say is good luck to anyone who thinks VW will shell out any more money than they have to. Would be sweet if they did use money as an incentive to get the 2nd part of the fix done, but I don't hold my breath. I purchased the 2015 because I love driving the TDI.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 06:27   #17
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Just for fun I entered my 2015 into the portal and it says this vehicle is not eligible. This is what I would have expected. I didn't purchase the new 2015 a few months ago thinking I would make money again on it. The warranty definitely had a lot to do with my decision though. So all I say is good luck to anyone who thinks VW will shell out any more money than they have to. Would be sweet if they did use money as an incentive to get the 2nd part of the fix done, but I don't hold my breath. I purchased the 2015 because I love driving the TDI.
I think your perspective is spot on. Don't make a decision in this kind of situation based upon thinking you will get additional restitution payments - base it upon warranty, fuel economy, and vehicle fitting needs and being an enjoyable vehicle to own & drive. If you are fortunate enough to qualify for additional restitution and VW provides it for you, that is just a bonus, but don't consider this in your decision process, because it sounds unlikely VW will grant it.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 07:23   #18
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Just for fun I entered my 2015 into the portal and it says this vehicle is not eligible. This is what I would have expected. I didn't purchase the new 2015 a few months ago thinking I would make money again on it. The warranty definitely had a lot to do with my decision though. So all I say is good luck to anyone who thinks VW will shell out any more money than they have to. Would be sweet if they did use money as an incentive to get the 2nd part of the fix done, but I don't hold my breath. I purchased the 2015 because I love driving the TDI.

I purchased my 2015 Passat without expecting anything further. It was a great deal and the extended warranty is a bonus.

In my case the portal says it's eligible - I suspect that if I submit documents they will reject it after review. Don't think you can take what the portal says initially as fact - there has to be a lag in getting what ever database they check the VINs against updated.

I suspect the only incentive for getting part 2 of the fix done is the extended warranty. (at least for cars like mine- previously bought back, part 1 fix applied)
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Old September 12th, 2017, 09:15   #19
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Just for fun I entered my 2015 into the portal and it says this vehicle is not eligible. This is what I would have expected. I didn't purchase the new 2015 a few months ago thinking I would make money again on it. The warranty definitely had a lot to do with my decision though. So all I say is good luck to anyone who thinks VW will shell out any more money than they have to. Would be sweet if they did use money as an incentive to get the 2nd part of the fix done, but I don't hold my breath. I purchased the 2015 because I love driving the TDI.
The class attorneys just told me that the NOS 2015's are not eligible due to not being a registered vehicle as outlined by the class document. They are not eligible for any restitution at all. Used bought back ones are. I bought mine for the tdi, discount and warranty at the time.
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Old September 12th, 2017, 09:41   #20
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The class attorneys just told me that the NOS 2015's are not eligible due to not being a registered vehicle as outlined by the class document. They are not eligible for any restitution at all. Used bought back ones are. I bought mine for the tdi, discount and warranty at the time.
OK, understand that NOS (new/old stock) aren't eligible.

Most folks in this forum said used 2015's that the previous owners had VW buy-back also are not eligible for further restitution because VW already paid the original owner off in the buy-back. If a dealer sells a used 2015 TDI, they can only do so after the Phase I fix is completed. Are you saying the new owner of a used, bought-back 2015 TDI is eligible for restitution at the time the Phase II fix is completed? If so, how much of a restitution payment is the new owner eligible for? A full restitution? A 1/3rd restitution?

If you are not sure, is this something the class attorneys can provided feedback on?
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Old September 12th, 2017, 19:42   #21
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I bought by '15 Passat from a non VW dealership so not sure if this helps but thought I'd chime in with my experience. When I ran the VIN and talked with someone on the portal live chat they said that the phase 1 was completed but I'm still eligible for the phase 2 restitution. The car was leased before I bought it BTW.
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Old September 13th, 2017, 07:10   #22
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I bought by '15 Passat from a non VW dealership so not sure if this helps but thought I'd chime in with my experience. When I ran the VIN and talked with someone on the portal live chat they said that the phase 1 was completed but I'm still eligible for the phase 2 restitution. The car was leased before I bought it BTW.

Encouraging news for sure. Not sure if mine was a previous lease or owned car or if that matters at all. Guess I'll find out when I upload docs on the portal and see if they reject or not. Still waiting for plates/registration to show up.

In the glove box is an info packet on the emissions modifications spelling out the fix, extended warranty and something to the effect that if I have purchased this vehicle it is my duty to bring it in for the part 2 fix when it's available - nothing about restitution for part 2.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 05:59   #23
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Any news on when the 2nd phase on GEN 3 cars ?
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 10:42   #24
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After the first of the year sometime, is my understanding.
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Old November 2nd, 2017, 10:49   #25
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Thanks Lightflyer1

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I'm having a devil of a time trying to ink a new 2018 Golf.

IF I do the fix, it would be sweet if the timing between the start and finish will be close to gather

This 2/3 and 1/3 is a pain Deep down I really love my TDi
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Net bases in my 2015 Golf = $12,495
NADA-KBB for older CPO Golf TDi 2014 = $18,250

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Old November 3rd, 2017, 15:49   #26
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If one does the BB, ... 2015 Golf

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....... and good bye the DSG
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Old November 3rd, 2017, 16:02   #27
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Just wait until near the end next year. You are obviously undecided.
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Just wait until near the end next year. You are obviously undecided.

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Old December 19th, 2017, 15:57   #29
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Related question: I heard from my local VW dealer that the bumper-to-bumper warranty (now 2 yr / unlimited miles) on the 2015s is offered by VW, rather than any particular dealership. Does anyone know whether that would apply to a 2015 bought from a non-VW dealer? I'd love to buy a used 2015 TDI, and the best prices near me are all at non-VW places, but don't want to miss out on the bumper-to-bumper by going to a different dealer. If I could ALSO get the final 3rd of restitution by going to a non-VW dealer, that would be icing on the cake.
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Hold on -
you should get the first 2/3 upon completion of the 1st phase, and the remaining 1/3 upon completion of phase 2.

The fixes will need to be done at a VW dealership.Phase 2 has not been announced as available yet.This will probably take all day for the dealership to complete.
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