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Old February 8th, 2019, 05:06   #1
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Hello Folks, I recently replaced the engine in my 04 B5 with another from a salvage yard. When the motor was installed but before assembling the rest of the car I purged the air from the fuel system through the glow plugs according to a post I read only got fuel from #4, installed the glow plugs and the motor started with a stumble then cleared up and ran fine, starting without issue multible times. Now after completing the assembly it will not start cranks, over fine I have removed the glow plugs to see if maybe the fuel system leaked down and there is nothing coming out during crank. Car has new fuel filter replaced tandem pump with one from previous motor Vagcom ran lift pump several times good flow of clean fuel, bypassed tee at filter still nothing. Sorry for long post but wanted show what was done with hopes of someone having an idea of something else to try as I'm at my wits end. Thanks
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Old February 8th, 2019, 09:16   #2
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Scan it.
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Old February 8th, 2019, 09:52   #3
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Ok I have scanned it and only things are the glow plugs and the asv.
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Old February 8th, 2019, 13:27   #4
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you may have lost pressure in the fuel rail or could be speed sensor? Crank engine and see if RPM's move (speed sensor) crank 5 sec's let it rest 5 sec's continue till it starts (fuel pressure) when you do this add another battery in parallel. if none of this works you got a ground missing
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Old February 8th, 2019, 18:15   #5
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thanks will do
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Old February 27th, 2019, 09:39   #6
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Chassis Type: 3B (3B - VW Passat B5 (1997 > 2005))
Scan: 01 02 03 08 15 16 17 19 35 36 37 46 47 55 56 57 58 75 76 77
VIN: WVWPE63B64E344201 Mileage: 409320km-254339miles
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 038-906-016-BHW.lbl
Part No SW: 038 997 016 N HW: 028 101 143 3
Component: R4 2,0L EDC G000AG 1388
Revision: 12345678 Serial number: VWZ7Z0D9644195
Coding: 0150034
Shop #: WSC 66565 257 00032
VCID: 29599A7E83832A02AA-5140
8 Faults Found:
17056 - Cylinder 2 Glow Plug Circuit (Q11)
P0672 - 000 - Electrical Fault
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 252 /min
Torque: 202.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 9.88 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Temperature: 11.7°C
Bin. Bits: 01110000
16497 - Intake Air Temp. Sensor (G42)
P0113 - 000 - Signal too High
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 202.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.77 V
Temperature: 16.2°C
Temperature: 14.4°C
Temperature: 14.4°C
16622 - Manifold Pressure / Boost Sensor (G31)
P0238 - 000 - Signal too High
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 202.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.77 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Absolute Pres.: 183.6 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 2580.6 mbar
18000 - Altitude Sensor / Boost Pressure Sensor
P1592 - 000 - Implausible Correlation
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 202.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 12.62 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Absolute Pres.: 1009.8 mbar
Absolute Pres.: 2182.8 mbar
17055 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug Circuit (Q10)
P0671 - 000 - Electrical Fault
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Torque: 212.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.48 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Temperature: 14.4°C
Bin. Bits: 01110000
17057 - Cylinder 3 Glow Plug Circuit (Q12)
P0673 - 000 - Electrical Fault
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Torque: 212.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.48 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Temperature: 14.4°C
Bin. Bits: 01110000
17058 - Cylinder 4 Glow Plug Circuit (Q13)
P0674 - 000 - Electrical Fault
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Torque: 212.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 11.48 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Temperature: 14.4°C
Bin. Bits: 01110000
19558 - Motor for Intake Manifold Flap (V157)
P3102 - 000 - No Signal
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 0 /min
Torque: 252.0 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 13.38 V
Bin. Bits: 00001000
Torque: 136.0 Nm
Torque: 108.0 Nm
Readiness: 1 7 0 1 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 3B0 927 156 AP
Component: AG5 01V 2.0lPD USA 1213
Coding: 0001134
Shop #: WSC 05311 000 00000
VCID: 74E7BB0A14C127EAC9-5140
3 Faults Found:
18228 - Pressure Control Valve 2 (N216)
P1820 - 003 - Short to Plus - Intermittent
18233 - Pressure Control Valve 3 (N217)
P1825 - 003 - Short to Plus - Intermittent - MIL ON
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1850 - 003 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 4B0-614-517.lbl
Part No: 4B0 614 517 G
Component: ABS/ESP front 3428
Coding: 04257
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 2541964EBF9B0E628E-5124
4 Faults Found:
18258 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1850 - 35-10 - Missing Message from ECU - Intermittent
18256 - Please check DTC Memory of Engine Controller
P1848 - 35-10 - - Intermittent
18036 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1628 - 35-10 - Missing Message from Steering Angle Sensor - Intermittent
18031 - Powertrain Data Bus
P1623 - 35-10 - No Communication - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 15: Airbags Labels: 6Q0-909-605-VW5.lbl
Part No: 1C0 909 605 C
Component: 09 AIRBAG VW61 04 0003
Coding: 12345
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 24478B4AB4A1F76A99-5106
1 Fault Found:
00532 - Supply Voltage B+
07-10 - Signal too Low - Intermittent
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1J0-907-487-A.lbl
Part No: 1J0 907 487 A
Component: Lenkradelektronik 0005
Coding: 00118
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 2F6D7466ED67443274-5140
No fault code found.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 17: Instruments Labels: 3B0-920-xx5-17.lbl
Part No: 3B0 920 929 C
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRSP VDO V04
Coding: 14235
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 275D9C46C5971C72BC-5106
WVWPE63B64E344201 VWZ7Z0D9644195
6 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
00779 - Outside Air Temp Sensor (G17)
30-10 - Open or Short to Plus - Intermittent
01314 - Engine Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 6N0-909-901-19.lbl
Part No: 6N0 909 901
Component: Gateway K<->CAN 0001
Coding: 00006
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 70EFB71A30D91BCA2D-5124
5 Faults Found:
01314 - Engine Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01316 - ABS Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
01315 - Transmission Control Module
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1C0-959-799.lbl
Part No: 1C0 959 799 C
Component: 08 Komfortgerát HLO 0004
Coding: 00258
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 377D4C0615378CF22C-4B00
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1C1959801
Component: 08 Tőrsteuer.FS KLO 0202
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1C1959802
Component: 08 Tőrsteuer.BF KLO 0202
Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1C0959811
Component: 08 Tőrsteuer.HL KLO 0202
Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1C0959812
Component: 08 Tőrsteuer.HR KLO 0202
11 Faults Found:
01330 - Central Control Module for Central Convenience (J393)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
00849 - S-contact at Ignition/Starter Switch (D)
25-10 - Unknown Switch Condition - Intermittent
00928 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Driver Side (F220)
54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223)
54-10 - Incorrectly Equipped - Intermittent
01331 - Door Control Module; Driver Side (J386)
53-10 - Supply Voltage Too Low - Intermittent
01359 - Internal Central Locking Switch; Passenger Side (E198)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00929 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Front Passenger Side (F221)
27-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
00930 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Left (F222)
27-00 - Implausible Signal
00931 - Locking Module for Central Locking; Rear Right (F223)
27-00 - Implausible Signal
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 56: Radio Labels: 3B7-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No: 3B7 035 180 G
Component: Radio PM6 0016
Coding: 04031
Shop #: WSC 05311
VCID: 24478B4AB4A1F76A99-5124
1 Fault Found:
01336 - Company Data Bus for Comfort System
37-10 - Faulty - Intermittent
End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 04:38)--------------------------

changed crank position sensor old one had crumbling insulation on the inside still no crank.
checked the voltage to the injectors each one had 2.3 volt.

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Old February 27th, 2019, 11:06   #7
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Wow with those faults, It seems that all the related wiring needs to checked for integrity.
Hopefully someone in the know will chime in.

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Wow with those faults, It seems that all the related wiring needs to checked for integrity.
Hopefully someone in the know will chime in.

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Car was turned on with engine wiring disconnected and/or the battery was run down. Clear all codes and try again. All that stuff isn't broken.
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You're right, that can happen. Somehow it slipped my mind that I've done the disconnected wire/turn on car too!
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Old February 27th, 2019, 17:59   #10
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Turns out it was the crank position sensor start every time. I cleared the codes and now nothing but number 1 glow plug. thank all
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