1.4 injectors

moxx

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Hi,

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I own a 1.4 TDI BNM engine 70HP stock which I remapped to 105HP.

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I was running 2.3 bar of boost before I tried to lower it to 2.1bar and there was no changes (no smoke at all)

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So I wanted to increase power but I think that I reached max from these injectors.

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I was comparing the torque limiter from the AMF engine (75HP@4000rpm)

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The maps are max 51mg for the AMF and max of 38mg for the BNM

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First I see that the maps are not properly calibrated because it should be approx the same (75HP vs 70HP).

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I know that AMF engine has 465cc injectors (045130073T) but not sure for mine (038130073BN)

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Looking at the AMF duration maps, I can see that these are globally lower for same mg & rpm

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Maybe mine are 350cc injectors, I looked all over the internet but cannot find this info, can you confirm this ?

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Also, as I said my stock tl is max at 38mg but my doi maps are max for 60 (i'm sure it's not). Why ?

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I increased it to 70 so @ 90C and 2500rpm, SOI is 17,1 deg. So 33.2 deg durations.

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EOI is like 15-16 so these injectors seem not enough to work with.

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Thank you for reading me, hope I'll have my questions answered.
 

Chrislupo

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I know that AMF engine has 465cc injectors (045130073T) but not sure for mine (038130073BN)

Maybe mine are 350cc injectors, I looked all over the internet but cannot find this info, can you confirm this ?

Hi, do you have the bosch number?


0 414 720 035 is amf injector...


Then try this http://www.bosch-automotive-catalog.com/de/product-search


edit: https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...ese-0414720313-038130073bn/520808437-223-5384


BOSCH 0414720313 --) VW 038130073BN


Unit Injektor (UIS/PDE) 0 414 720 313 Typformel PDE-P1.5/75/350S313
 
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moxx

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Hi,

Thank you for the answer.

So it was what I thought it is 350cc. You think it's a good idea to put amf injectors to have 465cc ?

How much hp do you think I can achieve and why does this amf engine have these big injectors for only 75HP ?

Also if I change injectors, would you keep stock soi and just change durations ?


Cheers.
 

moxx

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I want to first change injectors because if i use 1.3 bar with my stock gt1544 i could increase power but I want to be able to maybe add a vnt turbocharger after with same injectors. So how much hp you think I can have with 1.3 bar stock turbo and 465cc and how much with vnt and 465cc injectors ?
 

moxx

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Hi,

I want to buy arl tdi 150 injectors with 550cc, but turbo will come later.

Is there a problem if I only use a small capacity of these injectors ?

I don't think so because every injector should work with low iq but still.

Thanks.
 
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