I went to the final order page with 4 drums and it says shipping with a business dock was like $10.63 for UPS ground. I can't send a 13 pound bumper cover for less than $85 with UPS.sebring96hbg said:dh,
what was your quote, please?
I went to the final order page with 4 drums and it says shipping with a business dock was like $10.63 for UPS ground. I can't send a 13 pound bumper cover for less than $85 with UPS.sebring96hbg said:dh,
what was your quote, please?
Drivbiwire said:Do a terminal pickup, skip the home delivery!
I recently shipped a boat from Chicago to Boise for $180.00, that was also a terminal pickup. They simply call when it arrives, shipping times are around 3-4 days.
DB
IndigoBlueWagon said:They're not wrong. It's expensive because it's hazardous material. Shipping a 5 gallon container of this stuff nearly doubles the cost of the fuel.
So is this a positive result process? As in you get more energy out of the system then you put in? If so how long before more plants are built and we can tell those towelheads to shove it?
First they build a "GTL" plant using existing Natural gas and coal reformers. Then the "BIOMASS" can be added later to replace the Natural gas and coal reformers. The energy from the Biomass produces 100% of the energy to drive the entire proces. Conversion ratios are currently up around 60% (60% of the input comes out as spec'd fuel) the other 40% (eventually less as efficiency improves and scale increases) is used to power the system. The key is the system does NOT utilize ANY FOOD PRODUCTS nor will it compete with the food supply like "biodiesel" does. The system also produces any fraction of fuel oil, kerosene (Bio-JetA), heavy fuel oil, lubricating oils etc.
http://pics.tdiclub.com/data/500/Synthetic_Biofuels.pdf
DB
Yes, 30-40% energy in, 60-70% product out (depending on scale of the plant).greenskeeper said:So is this a positive result process? As in you get more energy out of the system then you put in? If so how long before more plants are built and we can tell those towelheads to shove it?
Yep, got the same quote for shipping 4 drums to NC - $450. They said shipping 2 or 3 drums would be less total shipping, but more expensive per drum - probably still talking $150 - $200 for even a single drum.dhdenney said:Called this morning and freighting 4 drums to KY would be $450. That makes the cost $6 per gallon. I imagine by the time that diesel fuel goes up $2 more, you couldn't get that stuff for $6 anyway. It's a wash unless you live in Houston. If I were there, I'd pick up several drums of it.
There's supposedly a Shell station in Kahli that's test marketing it.dhdenney said:I have done a web search several times for it and I can't really find any distribution other than Houston. Everything I turn up is informative sites, not anyone selling it.
You know what, that's a HELL of an idea!Variant TDI said:There's supposedly a Shell station in Kahli that's test marketing it.
Do you think it would be good PR for me to drive cross country to get some? Maybe they'd think to market some in the monkey house of activists that I call home.
Where in cali is this shell station?Variant TDI said:There's supposedly a Shell station in Kahli that's test marketing it.
Do you think it would be good PR for me to drive cross country to get some? Maybe they'd think to market some in the monkey house of activists that I call home.