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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old April 15th, 2015, 18:51   #61
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atlast---thank you for looking into the oil pan possibility, with that (probably out of the way) we are left with the wrong amounts in certain manuals (which ones?) and/or an incorrectly sized dipstick. hopefully, Bigworm will eventually chime back in with any information his cousin was able to gather.
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Old April 17th, 2015, 07:48   #62
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I didn't see this as an oil burning thread at all. Found my oil at the top of the little ball at the end of the dipstick upon arriving home just after purchase.
So I added a liter of the oil I bought before leaving the dealership and it brought it up to the 3/4 area of the dipstick.
Do I feel better now? No. Was the oil right and dipstick a little short?
Was the dipstick right and the oil low?
Since filling it is it right now or have I overfilled it?
When doing an oil change do I follow my manual and put "about 4.5" in?
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Old April 17th, 2015, 09:14   #63
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These are the questions for VWoA, NOT members here. No one has the answers except the guys that understand which engine is in the Passat, not the folks that printed the owner's manual
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Old April 17th, 2015, 13:51   #64
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I didn't see this as an oil burning thread at all. Found my oil at the top of the little ball at the end of the dipstick upon arriving home just after purchase.
So I added a liter of the oil I bought before leaving the dealership and it brought it up to the 3/4 area of the dipstick.
Do I feel better now? No. Was the oil right and dipstick a little short?
Was the dipstick right and the oil low?
Since filling it is it right now or have I overfilled it?
When doing an oil change do I follow my manual and put "about 4.5" in?
On my oil change with on my 2015 the right dipstick with 4.5 quarts level is at bottom line on letter C. This is why I started this post.
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Old April 18th, 2015, 07:54   #65
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After 4k miles in first 35 days if ownership this is the oil level. Exact same spot it was after adding a liter of oil upon arriving home from the dealership.


Thing is my dipstick doesn't look like either of the examples in the book. The black gap at top of the hash marks makes no sense to me. How could you tell where the oil is on a black surface.

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Old April 18th, 2015, 12:53   #66
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If you're new to VW diesels, you're learning about the awkwardness of reading the dipstick.

A proven method is to remove the dipstick, wipe it completely dry, reinsert, remove it slowly, and lay it on a clean paper towel. Roll the dipstick and observe the oil stain on the paper.
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Old May 1st, 2015, 14:00   #67
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So, when the dealer did my oil change, I needed to extract 1/2 quart to get the level down into the cross hatched area of the dipstick. When I called them and complained, they sent me the following and said that they are following the capacities that VWOA is telling them to use.



So, I told them that my owners manual tells me to use about 4.5 qts. They didn't have an answer for me on that. So, the difference between the owners manual, and the capacity chart is 1.3 qts. Which one should I believe???
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Old May 1st, 2015, 17:28   #68
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Not a Passat, but just took delivery of a 2015 Golf TDI. Owners manual states capacity at 5.5 liters. Oil level was to the full mark at delivery.

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Old May 1st, 2015, 17:30   #69
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^^^same engine...same sump capacity...5.5 liters/5.8 quarts
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Old May 7th, 2015, 14:00   #70
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My check engine light came on at 980 miles, and when I did a Car-Net check, it said I had too much oil in my car! Took it to dealer, and sure enough, he said several new 2015's were coming in with that error code. Be careful!
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So, when the dealer did my oil change, I needed to extract 1/2 quart to get the level down into the cross hatched area of the dipstick. When I called them and complained, they sent me the following and said that they are following the capacities that VWOA is telling them to use.



So, I told them that my owners manual tells me to use about 4.5 qts. They didn't have an answer for me on that. So, the difference between the owners manual, and the capacity chart is 1.3 qts. Which one should I believe???
That chart calls for 5.5L. Oil comes in 1L bottles. I'll bet they poured in all 6 bottles and didn't bother stopping at 5.5L. They figure most owners never check their oil so its better to have too much oil than too little, and don't want to deal with having a 1/2L left over from every oil change.

This would indicate that the true oil capacity of the engine is indeed 5.5L and would explain the roughly 1/2 quart over fill.
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That chart calls for 5.5L. Oil comes in 1L bottles. I'll bet they poured in all 6 bottles and didn't bother stopping at 5.5L. They figure most owners never check their oil so its better to have too much oil than too little, and don't want to deal with having a 1/2L left over from every oil change.

This would indicate that the true oil capacity of the engine is indeed 5.5L and would explain the roughly 1/2 quart over fill.
The quantity on my invoice stated 5 units. Not sure if that meant 5 quarts, or 5 litres?
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The quantity on my invoice stated 5 units. Not sure if that meant 5 quarts, or 5 litres?
I would think that means 5 bottles. 507.00 oil comes in 1L bottles, so that would be 5L in theory.

Using only 5L of oil contradicts the chart they gave you, which they used to justify putting in whatever amount of oil they put in. I'm having trouble believing they decided to put only 5L when the chart they gave you to show how much oil they decided to put in showed 5.5L.

Perhaps the service writer billed VW for only 5 bottles instead of 6 bottles out of habit or ignorance since all previous CR TDIs took 4.3L of oil, when in reality the tech who had the updated chart used 6 bottles. The only way to figure out how much oil was poured in is to ask the tech who did your oil change.

Just speculating. This mess is a bit confusing. I wasn't there, but I do suspect the oil capacity for the CVCA is indeed 5.5L.

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Old May 8th, 2015, 05:23   #74
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Shame I have never heard anymore from VWoA on this oil level problem.

The oil I purchased is in qt bottles, not liters.

I am still running 4.5 quart in my Passat. I have printed all the e-mail VWoA has sent me hoping it does not hurt anything.
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I bought a new 2015 Passat TDI 6M yesterday.

Build date 12/2014.

My owner's manual shows oil capacity of 5.8 q.
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