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Old July 2nd, 2018, 22:56   #11041
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Anyone live in a state where diesel is typically cheaper or the same price as regular unleaded? Here (NC) diesel is typically 30 - 50 more expensive. I have filled up in Tennessee a couple of times and diesel was 10 less than regular unleaded.


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Old July 9th, 2018, 05:03   #11042
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Don’t you know??? Diesel is harder to refine compared to gasoline........
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Old July 9th, 2018, 05:56   #11043
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Anyone live in a state where diesel is typically cheaper or the same price as regular unleaded? Here (NC) diesel is typically 30 - 50 more expensive. I have filled up in Tennessee a couple of times and diesel was 10 less than regular unleaded.


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Years ago diesel used to be usually less than regular gasoline. However with the no sulfer mandate it is now more expensive to refine.

But consider this: a car using diesel can go 50 miles on a gallon so at $3.50/gallon it costs 7 cents per mile. Meanwhile the same model car with a gasoline engine only goes 30 miles on a gallon so its $3.00/gallon price means it costs 10 cents per mile or about 43% more to cover the same distance!
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Old July 9th, 2018, 07:02   #11044
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When I started driving diesels the price difference between diesel and gasoline (regular, not unleaded...yes, it was that long ago), was usually a few pennies. But that was also at a time when fuel prices in general were very volatile. Since then it fluctuates, but is usually about the same price or a little less than unleaded premium, at least here in the northeast.

Honestly I don't care. The fuel efficiency of diesels more than makes up for any historical price disadvantage, as romad has pointed out. And I don't want to drive gasoline cars regardless.
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Old July 9th, 2018, 09:44   #11045
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Diesel is usually around mid-grade here, at least during parts of the year.

Right now it's a bit more, kind of between mid and premium. Seems like over the last 10 years or so, the spread between grades of gasoline has really widened. I remember when every single station was a uniform 10 difference between grades. So if the Raceway sold regular unleaded for $1.299, mid would be $1.399 and premium would be $1.499. Nowadays, 15 is the low end and some stations like Shell are 30 or even 49 cents per gallon different. Since they don't post the mid and premium prices on signs anymore, I feel sorry for the folks whose car run on those grades, because they are getting hammered.

The Shell nearest me today at 4 am:

RUG - $2.649
MID - $3.139
PRM - $3.629
Diesel - $2.899 / $2.959 (credit)

Go down the road a mile, and the Circle K is selling premium for $3.129 and diesel is $2.929. As you can see, this makes making a blanket statement comparing higher grade gas and diesel prices here kind of difficult.

Prior to Memorial Day diesel was anywhere from $2.799 to $2.999. Now it's $2.929 to $2.999. The high end is holding tight to the three buck ceiling, but the low end has shrunk.
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Old July 12th, 2018, 19:51   #11046
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3.99 -down 17 cents
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Old July 14th, 2018, 09:27   #11047
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Here in the Vancouver, B.C. area, diesel is about 10 cents a liter cheaper, which works out to about 36 cents per US gallon cheaper. A few weeks ago, it was a much as 20 cents a liter cheaper.
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Old July 15th, 2018, 18:37   #11048
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In summer diesel is usually between Regular and Mid Grade...in winter it's typically close to Premium.That's in Massachusetts where I buy most of my fuel.
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Old July 17th, 2018, 07:51   #11049
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In NC and SC, diesel is typically in the 15-25 cents per gallon higher than regular and less than midgrade. I consider that the same vehicle with a gas engine will get about 30% lower mileage. With regular around $2, that means diesel would have to be higher than $2.60 to be more expensive to run.
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Old July 18th, 2018, 10:40   #11050
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In Indiana, it's about the same price as mid grade gasoline. I did find out that the state tax on fuel is about 16 cents more per gallon on diesel than on gasoline. If the taxes were to be equal, diesel and regular unleaded gasoline would be about the same price everywhere.


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Regular Unleaded - $2.99/gallon
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Old July 26th, 2018, 07:25   #11051
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D2 was $2.789 last night in metro Denver, rug is running around $ 2.599....
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Old July 26th, 2018, 08:44   #11052
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Biking across Iowa this week, I noticed d2 ranging from about $3 to $3.20 per gallon.
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Old July 27th, 2018, 09:00   #11053
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Why is diesel so expensive in PA? I was driving through the other afternoon and Diesel at truck stops was in the $3.70 range. I filled in VA yesterday morning and paid $2.99.
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Old July 27th, 2018, 09:48   #11054
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Why is diesel so expensive in PA? I was driving through the other afternoon and Diesel at truck stops was in the $3.70 range. I filled in VA yesterday morning and paid $2.99.
Taxes, distance from refineries, greed (both commercial & governmental)
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Old July 27th, 2018, 10:55   #11055
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Odd for us here but we have one gas station right off the highway from where I work.


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