Help needed with a P2196 code

Hello

My 2013 Passat SE 6 speed manual has gotten this code twice now in the last 300 miles. Car has 51,000 miles and seems to be running ok. I do have the Ross Tech VCDS and that is what I used to retrieve the code and clear it twice now. Here is exactly what it says. I did a search here and didnt find anything. Any ideal where I should start checking?

Friday,05,December,2014,15:00:31:02874
VCDS Release 14.10.0 (x64): Generic OBD2
Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: 1 Fault Found:
P2196 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Signal too High (Rich)

mrctdi said:

Hello

My 2013 Passat SE 6 speed manual has gotten this code twice now in the last 300 miles. Car has 51,000 miles and seems to be running ok. I do have the Ross Tech VCDS and that is what I used to retrieve the code and clear it twice now. Here is exactly what it says. I did a search here and didnt find anything. Any ideal where I should start checking?

Friday,05,December,2014,15:00:31:02874
VCDS Release 14.10.0 (x64): Generic OBD2
Mode 03: Emission related fault codes

Address 7E8: 1 Fault Found:
P2196 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Signal too High (Rich)

Click to expand...

I've seen this come up in the other model sections. Mostly the late A4 chassis cars with the BEW engine (first to have an O2 sensor). Check through the freeze frame data to see if the fuel trim (I think it's LOD?) is 0. Basically, during engine braking - the O2 sensor is still reading fuel when the ECU says there isn't any. On the BEWs, it's been a defective sensor. I actualy just changed mine yesterday (04 Jetta) for this same problem, so I'll find out shortly if it holds true.

Thanks Gforce,

I need to learn the VCDS a little better to do that. I am really basic when it comes to the VCDS. I can scan for codes and even changed a few things in some of the controllers with the help from this great site.

I will read up a little more on it and give it a shot.

I think a scan will give you that information. If you saved it (or when it happens again), post the scan results. I pulled mine through my scangauge II after reading other threads with the same problem. Every time mine was triggered I was engine braking - usually 4th or 5th gear (based on speed and RPMs).

I think that should still be covered under the emissions warranty though...

Hey Guys

I could still use some help with this code. I scanned it again today and the posted results are below. I would appreciate any help or suggestions provided. I had the new software recall performed and the dealer would not scan and check the code without me providing them 160. If it was under warranty they would have covered it but if not then I was out the 160.

One other question I have is about the AdBlue. I got the 1500 mile warning and added 2.5 gallons up when the 600 mile warning came on. How long does it take for the warning to go away? I have only driven it about 10-15 miles and started it multiple times today and it is still there. Tomorrow I will be talking it on a 65 mile drive one way and then back so hopefully that will do it.

Sunday,05,April,2015,18:16:34:02874
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator
VCDS Version: 14.10.1.1 (x64)
Data version: 20150130

Mileage: 99740km-61975mi Repair Order: 4/5/2013



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Chassis Type: A3 (7N0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 1C 25 42 44 46 4F 52 56 62 72 77

VIN: Mileage: 99740km-61975miles

01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000
1C-Position Sensing -- Status: OK 0000
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 0010
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: OK 0000

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Address 01: Engine (J623-CKRA) Labels: 03L-906-012-CKR.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 012 DD HW: 03L 907 309 S
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H23 8400
Revision: 71H23--- Serial number:
Coding: 00190012042400000000
Shop #: WSC 56094 001 1048576
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906012DD 004008
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906012DD.rod
VCID: 69D907128872D869D9E-803C

1 Fault Found:
5120 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P2196 00 [237] - Signal too High (Rich)
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Mileage: 90860 km
Date: 2015.02.01
Time: 15:13:08

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

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Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels: 1K0-907-379-60EC1F.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 BL HW: 1K0 907 379 BL
Component: ESP MK60EC1 H31 0152
Revision: 00H31001
Coding: C54BC0F5492800FFA31103EC921C0042A71000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 7DF14342E4FA54C9056-8028

No fault code found.

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J301) Labels: None
Part No SW: 561 907 426 A HW: 561 907 426 A
Component: AC Manuell H02 0101
Revision: 00001K07
Coding: 0010001002
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC 001002
ROD: EV_ACManuaElectGen2BHTC_VW36.rod
VCID: 193977D2189288E989E-804C

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 937 085 S HW: 5K0 937 085 S
Component: BCM PQ35 B+ 021 0068
Revision: BH021001
Coding: 6F200E18902B08D408880001160004C80071008650801560648060000C70
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 4385F5BAC29EE239332-8016

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels: 5K0-959-655.clb
Part No SW: 5C0 959 655 HW: 5C0 959 655
Component: AirbagVW10G 013 0809
Serial number: 003ENM04RK1S
Coding: 00003548
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360 A01024
ROD: EV_AirbaVW10SMEVW360_SK35.rod
VCID: 6FED690AB696365987A-803A

Seat occupied recognition:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 5C6 959 339 B HW: 5C6 959 339 B
Component: BF-Gewichtss. H10 0046
Serial number: 6940000Y120000KY6C0%
Coding: 303044

Crash sensor for side airbag; driver side:
Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3572MSME0F567471ZZZ

Crash sensor for side airbag; front passenger side:
Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 354 HW: 5K0 959 354
Component: S.Sens.Beif.V H02 ----
Serial number: 3582MSME0D304572ZZZS

Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; driver side:
Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Fahr.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3516KSME4E59621FZZZ2

Crash sensor for side airbag; rear; passenger side:
Subsystem 5 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 351 A HW: 5K0 959 351 A
Component: S.Sens.Beif.H H02 ----
Serial number: 3526KSME1009721FZZZP

Crash sensor for front airbag; driver side:
Subsystem 6 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Fahr H02 ----
Serial number: 3556LSME651A771EZZZ2

Crash sensor for front airbag; front passenger side:
Subsystem 7 - Part No SW: 5K0 959 659 A HW: 5K0 959 659 A
Component: F.Sens.Beif H02 ----
Serial number: 3566LSME76666A1EZZZ8

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels: 5K0-953-569.clb
Part No SW: 1K5 953 521 AK HW: 5K0 953 569 B
Component: LENKS.MODUL 014 0140
Revision: FF010041 Serial number: 20120912200254
Coding: 008A140000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_SMLSNGVOLWSXS A01004
ROD: EV_SMLSNGVOLWS.rod
VCID: 76E35C6EC9CC079144C-8023

Multi Function Steering Wheel Control Module:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 3C8 959 537 D HW: 3C8 959 537 D
Component: E221__MFL-YVJ H07 0022
Coding: E20000

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
Part No SW: 561 920 970 E HW: 561 920 970 E
Component: KOMBI H07 0705
Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 231E01
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04716
ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_SK35.rod
VCID: 1C376EC617A0FDC1928-8049

No fault code found.

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Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels: 7N0-907-530-V2.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 530 AH HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
Component: J533 Gateway H50 1634
Revision: H50 Serial number: 15101203290260
Coding: 461000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 76E35C6EC1CC079144C-8023

No fault code found.

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Address 1C: Position Sensing Labels: 1Kx-919-xxx-1C.lbl
Part No SW: 561 919 965 HW: 561 919 965
Component: Kompass 002 0001
Revision: 00002000 Serial number: 1829227R2YNV06
Coding: 0000002
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 63C5153AA25E8239132-8036

No fault code found.

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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334) Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 5K0 953 234 HW: 5K0 953 234
Component: IMMO H07 0705
Serial number:
Coding: 000000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03709
ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_SE25.rod
VCID: 6ADB781E8D74D371D04-803F

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 701 HW: 3C0 959 793 B
Component: TUER-SG FT 002 0525
Revision: 13110009 Serial number: 0005591996
Coding: 0404F5
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGFPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 5BB52DDA522EBAF95B2-800E

Slave Driver:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 811 HW: 561 959 811 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J388__TSG_HL 004 4472
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K0 909 144 P
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl. 290 3305
Revision: 00H22000
Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
VCID: 377D916A4646BE999FA-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II (J520) Labels: 1K0-907-532.clb
Part No SW: 7N0 907 532 HW: 7N0 907 530 AH
Component: EZE_2 H50 1634
Revision: H50 Serial number: 15101203290260
Coding: 00000008
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 6FED690ABE96365987A-803A

Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 919 204 B HW: 561 919 204 B
Component: Analoguhr 008 0005

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels: 3C0-959-70X-GEN4.clb
Part No SW: 561 959 702 HW: 3C0 959 792 B
Component: TUER-SG BT 002 0525
Revision: 15110009 Serial number: 0005558598
Coding: 0404F4
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X A04001
ROD: EV_TSGBPQ25BRFVW46X.rod
VCID: 5CB72EC65720BDC1528-8009

Slave Passenger:
Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 561 959 812 HW: 561 959 812 Labels: 1K0-959-70X-GEN4.CLB
Component: J389__TSG_HR 004 4472
Serial number: --------------------
Coding: 800000

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio (J503) Labels: 5M0-035-1xx-56.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 035 180 AF HW: 1K0 035 180 AF
Component: Radio Prem-8 H04 0008
Revision: -----08S Serial number: VWZ4Z7M3376879
Coding: 0500040004000B
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
VCID: 64C7162667508501EA8-8031

1 Fault Found:
02635 - Tuner Not Enabled/Activated
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100000
Fault Priority: 7
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 106
Mileage: 89748 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2015.01.22
Time: 12:30:21


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Address 77: Telephone (J412) Labels: 7P6-035-730.clb
Part No SW: 7P6 035 730 K HW: 7P6 035 730 K
Component: TELEFON H15 3200
Revision: 1B001001 Serial number: 00007663449894
Coding: 0A10040000010110
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_UHVNA 002720
ROD: EV_UHVNA.rod
VCID: 3A7B885EBD54A3F1604-806F

No fault code found.

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I thought the freeze frame data would show up in a scan - interesting that it does not... If you go into the engine controller with VCDS see if you can find it. Pretty stupid that the dealer wouldn't check a code while they are doing the recall - they are already plugged in.

Handing them that scan might help them determine if it's something covered under the emissions warranty. Otherwise, might be cheaper to just change the O2 sensor. Looks like it runs $100 to $150 depending on where you get it (actual Bosch).

As far as the DEF - mine cleared immediately, but I think the actual procedure is to turn on the ignition without starting the car to let it 'learn' the level?

gforce1108,

Thanks for your reply again. I cleared the code and it came back on today on the way home. The DEF light went out after about 15 miles into my commute to work today. I will try and check for that freeze frame data to ee if that shows us anything.

Do you happen to have the part # and location of that sensor? I may just pull it and see what it looks like or just replace it and be done with it.

Been a rough winter with this car this year. I also need to replace the windshield now from a stone chip and then with an icy commute and the defroster on I now have a really nice long crack. I swear this windshield has to be softer than most or the angle of it. I have more little rock chips and it looks like it has been sandblasted.

Thanks again

gforce1108,

Do you think this is the right one? I checked on IDI Parts but nothing listed there. Kinda surprised by that one.

http://www.autozone.com/emission-co...2-0l-turbo-dsl-dohc/182659_108084_1784_97999/

mrctdi said:

gforce1108,

Do you think this is the right one? I checked on IDI Parts but nothing listed there. Kinda surprised by that one.

http://www.autozone.com/emission-co...2-0l-turbo-dsl-dohc/182659_108084_1784_97999/

Click to expand...

That's the same part number I came up with. I haven't actually looked where it's located, but since it's the upstream one, it should be after the turbo, but before the first component in the exhaust.

I don't think it's just VW with the new windshields... I've heard multiple people complain about damage to their new cars when they never had one before. Not sure if it's different materials, or the angle, or a combination. So far so good with mine! My Jetta has 210k and is pitted badly so even if the Passat is getting worn, it looks a whole lot clearer

Any luck getting this fixed? My '12 Passat with 39k miles just threw this code today. I'm out of town for the weekend so just stopped at an AutoZone to have the code read. I'll get more data from my VCDS when I get home. The car seems to be running just fine and still getting >40mpg so I'm not too worried about it at this point but it would be great if this was covered under the emissions warranty extension!

I ordered a new O2 sensor and will replace it as soon as I get it. Hopefully one day this week. Mine has been on for months with no noticeable problems. No luck for me getting covered under warranty because the dealer wawnted to charge me to scan it even though they were already hooked up to th computer to do the recall software update.

Sounds good I'll be interested to hear if that fixes the issue! I was finally able to plug my car in and read the codes for myself. Looks like a similar code but I also got something with the glow plug. I went ahead and cleared it for now so we will see if it comes back before I take any further action. This is what I saw:

Address 01: Engine (J623-CKRA) Labels: 03L-906-012-CKR.clb
Part No SW: 03L 906 012 BP HW: 03L 907 309 S
Component: R4 2,0L EDC H21 2158
Revision: 71H21--- Serial number:
Coding: 001D0012042400000000
Shop #: WSC 09003 957 00200
ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906012BP 004004
ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906012.rod
VCID: 73CB02CADAC123B963D-8026

4 Faults Found:
7925 - Cylinder 1 Glow Plug
P06C5 00 [096] - Incorrect Installation
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:

5120 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1
P2196 00 [237] - Signal too High (Rich)
MIL ON - Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00000001
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 7
Mileage: 62676 km
Date: 2015.04.11
Time: 10:11:18

15733 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 00 [096]
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:

18648 - ROD - Unknown Error Code
- 00 [096]
Intermittent - Not Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
Freeze Frame:

Readiness: 1 1 0 0 0

I went ahead and ordered a new O2 sensor for mine. I reset the check engine light twice and it came back within 50 miles each time. I found it on Amazon for $75 (http://amzn.com/B00427MHNA). Bosch part number 17148. Have you found any good instructions on replacing it?

So did you ever get this issue resolved? Did it turn out to be the O2 sensor?

Sorry it has been so long since I got back to an update. It has been crazy busy for me. I did order the part a few months ago and it just sat on the workbench. Well today I had some spare time so I went for it and it was not a very hard job at all to replace. I should have done it sooner but I thought it was going to take much more time. It took less than an hour for sure. I cleared the fault light and took it for a quick ride and so far so good. I will take it for a much longer ride tomorrow and report back if there is any issues.

Thanks go out to gforce1108 for helping me along with this issue and keeping me straight and on the right track.

Did roughly 150 miles today of mixed driving and so far so good. While I had the car in the shop I even upgraded my fogs to the H11's and that was a nice improvement.

Hi all,
I have this code too 5120 with P2196. The car is ok, mpg, no check engine light. Just a little bit lag which i think is normal. Should i change this sensor?
The DPF is like this

IDE00427 Particle filter: difference pressure 1 hPa
IDE00428 Particle filter: offset for differential press. 3 hPa
IDE00430-ENG104207 Particle filter: field regeneration request status-Bit 0 00000000
IDE00432 Particle filter: time since last regeneration 5552 s
IDE00433 Particle filter: oil ash volume 0.12 l
IDE00434 Particle filter: soot mass calculated 10.47 g
IDE00435 Particle filter: soot mass measured -0.57 g
IDE00436 Particle filter: kilometers since last regeneration 55774 m
IDE01407 Particle filter: fuel consumption since last regeneration 3.23 l
IDE01408 Charge limit for field regeneration 22.65 g
IDE01409 Charge limit for service regeneration 40.00 g
IDE03353 Particle filter differential press. sensor: uncond. voltage 1011.6 mV