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Old May 11th, 2012, 07:33   #1
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Default doing research TDI JETTA 2012 found this Consumers report looking to Buy a 2012 TDI

Question The REG Jetta Bottom lol would you guys agree with this???
Looking at buying a TDI this month sport-wagon Just want to get what I am in store with like upkeep $$$$ and reliability do people here glad they have the car I see people have diesdals from the 80-s and 90-s also is the STANDARD less hassle in terms of maintenance and reliablity then the AUTO on the 2012
Owner-satisfaction Ratings ----
Considering all factors (price, performance, reliability, comfort, enjoyment, etc.), would you get this car if you had to do it all over again?".

Volkswagen Jetta Sportwagen TDI 81
Subaru Outback 78
Audi A4 Avant AWD 73
Audi A6 Avant Supercharged 73
Honda Accord Crosstour FWD* 72
BMW 325xi 72
MEDIAN 72
Mazda5* 71
Honda Accord Crosstour AWD* 69
Toyota Venza (V6) 65
Toyota Venza (4-cyl.) 62
Volkswagen Jetta SportWagen 5 61
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Old May 12th, 2012, 17:17   #2
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Despite what you may read here, IMO most people love their TDI Sportwagen. I do.

We bought it as the wifes car but after taking it every chance I got and leaving her with my truck, we bought her another car.

The truck is for sale.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 17:40   #3
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Also, despite the name, the JSW is actually a Golf, not a Jetta. It matters

Same base platform, but US Golfs get much nicer interiors than US Jettas.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 18:00   #4
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I look for excuses to drive mine. Heck I now drive 40 miles roundtrip to fuel at my new favorite station. Why. I love driving down the back roads I take to get to the station.
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Old May 12th, 2012, 18:24   #5
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I totally get what you mean Skater. I've got some nice little twisty (at least as far as that goes for flat country...) two lane not far from my office. Nice little 10-20 mile loops depending on how far I feel like going. Very little traffic, and I've never seen a cop (not that I push it....no shoulder + ditches + occasional farm vehicles isn't a great combo). Nice lunch hour diversion.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 02:43   #6
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Everybody has opinion- I look at Consumer Report in the same light as the tabloids at the grocery checkout.
Having said that, it just depends on what you are looking for.
I recommend VW-- if you want one- to properly own one, it does take a little extra effort (and somewhat higher maintenance cost over time).
If I was in the market, JSW TDI would be first choice, JSW gasser would be second choice. I have never considered Audi, BMW any different than VW, you buy one because you want one, not because they are exceptionally better value.

By and large, Honda is probably most reliable (with noted exception)

Subaru are very popular here-- AWD is the big thing here in the mountains (our wonderful winter weather).

My history with vehicles, I buy- drive for 100k miles and trade. Almost all my vehicles never saw anything other than oil changes, battery, tires, etc. Never entered service dept at dealership except for a recall or two.
Mazda, Honda, Ford have proven to be the "best" in my world. This is my first VW, so time will tell. It has been back to dealership 3 times in less than a year.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:27   #7
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Ive got a 2012 JSW, about 7k miles. I dont know how someone could want a small wagon and not like the car. Reliablity, we shall see. I like diesels, absolutely prefer them to gasoline vehicles and as such VW is really the only choice in the non luxury small car market, at least for now.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 06:42   #8
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I can't recommend a 2009 - 2012 CR. I am looking to replace my diesel fleet and am holding off until the 2013 motor is out. Hopefully a proper EGR/intercooler, urea and HPFP will make it a 1/4 million mile car like my others with the mileage I expect out of the hassle of driving a diesel.

Right now a direct injected turbocharged car is the cheapest way to go. Its my engineering nature but can't own the CP4.1 pump in its current forum, it would be in the back of my mind with every revolution of the motor, its my "design flaw".
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Old May 13th, 2012, 07:22   #9
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I didn't hear they were going to urea on the Golf class cars for 2013?

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Old May 13th, 2012, 08:01   #10
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Urea would be better than the dpf. Look at the milage they are getting from the Passat. What is the hassel of driving a diesel? I think the driving experience is superior to gasoline.
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Old May 13th, 2012, 09:05   #11
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Urea would be better than the dpf. Look at the milage they are getting from the Passat. What is the hassel of driving a diesel? I think the driving experience is superior to gasoline.
Urea is not an alternative to the dpf - all modern road going diesels require a dpf to meet soot emission limits.

Urea is used for NOx control. The non-urea diesels rely on an NOx catalyst + engine control parameters. Not sure if the urea diesels do without the NOx catalyst entirely (they may use a smaller one than if they did not use urea). The mileage improvement of using urea derives from engine control parameters that do not need to be compromised (from a mileage standpoint) in the interest of NOx reduction.
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Old May 18th, 2012, 16:29   #12
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Love my Tdi, but you have to be a "car guy" to get it. if your looking for a car you can just put fuel in and drive, keep looking. You have to know a little about your TDi to keep it happy and not get snowed by the dealer service dept.
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There's lots of choices coming out in the next 6 months or so. I'm considering a new vehicle and this time I'm not so sure it'll be a diesel.
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[QUOTE=JettaTDiPA;3802041]Everybody has opinion- I look at Consumer Report in the same light as the tabloids at the grocery checkout.

Consumers Reports doesn't accept advertising like Motor Trend and its car of the year issue. It surveys its subscribers to collect information for its car surveys on reliability. Substantially better than any tabloid.
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Old May 31st, 2012, 12:19   #15
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I read today that in the not too distant future even gas engines will be required to have particulate filters. Tree huggers ??
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