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Old February 12th, 2011, 07:17   #1
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Old February 12th, 2011, 08:09   #2
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No gas. Fuel economy, please. I saw the Passat at the Detroit Auto show: It actually posts a higher highway MPG than the Jetta, probably because it uses urea injection instead of the Jetta's more complex, but urea-free, emissions system. However, I'd expect overall MPG would be slightly lower since it's a larger, heavier car. The Passat has several features that have been left out of the Jetta by VW's cost cutting efforts:

- Independent rear suspension
- Electric power steering
- A real fuel gauge and a temperature gauge
- Soft-touch interior plastic

The Passat appears (to me, anyway) to be nicer car than the Jetta, less of a feel of being built to a price. And although pricing isn't final yet, I suspect the Passat will cost 4-7K more than the Jetta. Both are available with 6-speed manual and DSG transmissions.

If I were looking for a TDI sedan I'd get the Passat, no contest. I'm unfortunately one of the many people who wish they'd make a wagon for this market.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 12:26   #3
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It actually posts a higher highway MPG than the Jetta, probably because it uses urea injection instead of the Jetta's more complex, but urea-free, emissions system.
VW probably will still have the complex emissions system with the addition of urea on the Passat & the urea ain't cheap.
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Old May 19th, 2011, 13:41   #4
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It is a crying shame that VAG won't send us the BlueMotion Passat - 1.6 TDI (105 hp).

Apparently delivering world-class fuel economy in a family-sized car to the American market isn't THAT important <eyes_roll>
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Old July 24th, 2011, 16:54   #5
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I drove one last wednesday night in Milwaukee. The sticker said 40 mpg for the highway.
It was an automatic, so it was hard to compare against my manual jetta tdi. I was impressed with the fit and finish and the roominess of the cabin. It will be on my short list when I get a new car next year.
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Old July 24th, 2011, 17:06   #6
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No gas. Fuel economy, please. I saw the Passat at the Detroit Auto show: It actually posts a higher highway MPG than the Jetta, probably because it uses urea injection instead of the Jetta's more complex, but urea-free, emissions system. However, I'd expect overall MPG would be slightly lower since it's a larger, heavier car. The Passat has several features that have been left out of the Jetta by VW's cost cutting efforts:

- Independent rear suspension
- Electric power steering
- A real fuel gauge and a temperature gauge
- Soft-touch interior plastic

The Passat appears (to me, anyway) to be nicer car than the Jetta, less of a feel of being built to a price. And although pricing isn't final yet, I suspect the Passat will cost 4-7K more than the Jetta. Both are available with 6-speed manual and DSG transmissions.

If I were looking for a TDI sedan I'd get the Passat, no contest. I'm unfortunately one of the many people who wish they'd make a wagon for this market.
My tdi has electric power steering
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Old July 25th, 2011, 04:02   #7
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You're right. This post is six months old, when it wasn't clear whether the TDIs would get electric steering or not. Jetta still doesn't have the other items.

BTW, I saw a '12 GLI at Waterfest a week ago. Very nice interior, soft touch fabrics, real gauges. And it has IRS. Too bad they didn't build the diesel like that.
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 12:31   #8
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You're right. This post is six months old, when it wasn't clear whether the TDIs would get electric steering or not. Jetta still doesn't have the other items.

BTW, I saw a '12 GLI at Waterfest a week ago. Very nice interior, soft touch fabrics, real gauges. And it has IRS. Too bad they didn't build the diesel like that.
So, is it just the jetta sedan without IRS or does the sportwagen also NOT have independent rear suspension?
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Old August 2nd, 2011, 13:15   #9
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Sportwagen and Golf have IRS. Jetta sedan has a beam axle. Not even semi-independent like MKIV and earlier cars.
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Old November 1st, 2011, 20:37   #10
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Hi there

Bought my 2012 Passat TDI Sept 30/2011
Of course it came with a full tank and I have just refuelled twice in 30 days and have driven over 1500 km

Best on highway was 5.3 l/100 (about 54 miles/gal)
In town 7.3 l/100 ( about 39 miles/gal)

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I love this car!
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Old November 1st, 2011, 20:48   #11
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6 Speed Manual or DSG?

Thats good MPG for only 1500kms! What is your RPM @ 100kph in top gear?
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Old November 12th, 2011, 09:40   #12
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Have just traded my 2009 TDI Jetta wagon (m 6-spd) on a 2012 Passat TDI DSG. I currently have 2300 KM on it and with mostly highway miles, it is getting quite abit better mileage than the 2009. My average right now is about 5.3 litres/100 KM or 53MPG Imp or 44PG US. This car is even better in all ways than I had hoped for.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 20:34   #13
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Wow, a few hours of reading posts and I'm still confused. I'm ready to order a new TDI but trying to decide the model. First I waited for the new Jetta, then the Passat. Now I don't mind the blue exhaust injection by itself but I wonder what other potential maintenance issues, if any, the rest of the exhaust system component may have. Then a post said while the Passat has the injection, the Jetta has a more complex emissions system so does that equate to more maintaining things moving forward. Price is a consideration but I don't want to be penny wise and dollar foolish. Having rolled over the ripe old age of 60 I want this car to carry my far in the future. The Passat does seem much better appointed than the Jetta but they are both nice cars.

Any help and suggestions appreciated!
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Old January 11th, 2012, 03:36   #14
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If the money isn't an issue, I'd go for the Passat. More space, better driveability because of the urea, IRS, full instrumentation. It is bigger, which may be a plus or a minus for you. And you may have to wait longer for a Passat.
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Old February 25th, 2012, 07:55   #15
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Using Canadian numbers, and in winter driving with my studded winter tires I've seen 5.0 l/100k or 58mpg with 10,000 on it so far mostly highway. That is on my 2012 Passat TDI with DSG. I can't wait to see what happens when it is broken it, in the summer, with summer tires and rims on!

Lovin' it, and lovin' that tourque!

Urea wasn't an issue as at my 10k service, it took 5 liters, and so it will be a non factor.
Twice the car, with little of the decontenting of the jetta. No regrets!
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