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Audi SUVs (Q7 & Q5) and other V6 TDIs Discussions area for Audi Q7 and Q5 TDI (2009+ in Canada & the US) as well as others with the V6 TDI such as the A6, A7 and A8 sedans.

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Old March 30th, 2020, 13:06   #46
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Thanks Daemon! I just dropped the car off to get an alignment and I had the alignment checked beforehand too about a week ago so Iíll post before and after results.

As far as the black optic package, a buddy of mine plasty dipped a bunch of the chrome parts that he had it on his car and it looks about the same as the black opticís package and he told me it wasnít too complicated of a process once you tape the parts off that you donít want to paint/dip. And the great thing with plastic dip, is if you donít like it or you make a mistake, you can just peel it right off.


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Old March 31st, 2020, 08:21   #47
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The OEM Peelers are some of my favorite rims, OEM or otherwise.
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Old March 31st, 2020, 10:03   #48
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Thanks Pittdawg and yeah I agree- for OEM, theyíre my favorites. I have a set of 20Ē Vorsteiner VFF 102ís waiting to be put on when UPS delivers my 4th wheel and tire.. they lost one of the wheels+tire during delivery a month ago and just found it.. sent it back to the sender, and now itís finally (and hopefully) on it itís final trip to my garage. ETA April 6th.

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1. DTUK TCU tune, delivered yesterday- just need to install
2. Change center diff fluid, just waiting on special unicorn Audi center diff oil to get here (just did front and rear diff fluid a week ago)
3. Put 20Ē Vorsteiner VFF 102 wheels on


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Old March 31st, 2020, 11:11   #49
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Awesome. Please post your results on the DTUK TCU tune. I have a Sprintbooster which I enjoy but not the same as a TCU tune.
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Old March 31st, 2020, 15:32   #50
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Diesel,

I agree, and thanks for the advice on the plasti. Also how'd the alignment go? You have a build thread that largely matches up with mine.... hahaha... later in the spring i plan on getting these: https://www.moddedeuros.com/products...ite-5x112-et40 w/ Conti DWS 06 255/45/20 ( currently rocking 19" stockers and this combo is almost 9lbs per corner lighter )... hahaha.... Looking at Bilsteins, and either your springs, or new stockers. And would be curious to hear about the tranny tune. Something more extreme that I am considering... is to remove the moonroof, source a stock metal sheet pan, they exist obviously because you could get the car w/o it, and the headliner. A little more head room, but I've read that is is approx on this vehicle a 200 lbs weight reduction at the highest point in the vehicle... handling, performance, and mpg's anyone?

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Old April 1st, 2020, 10:34   #51
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Moonroof delete? Yes please! Iíve been wanting to delete my moonroof forever with all the damn noises it makes. Iíve looked into getting an insert (metal, plexiglass, poly, etc) that just goes in the glassí place but canít find anything- itíd have to be a custom job. Where the hell do I find a new roof pan?? Cheers


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Old April 1st, 2020, 11:08   #52
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8R0817111D is the manufacturers part number. Expensive as hell, and you'd need a body shop to do it and paint. Here is the full section w/ the re-inforcements as well listed: https://parts.audiusa.com/a/Audi__Q5...S/1385495.html

and this is the black headliner w/o sunroof https://parts.audiusa.com/p/Audi_201...67505TK23.html

There are other ones in other colors, depends on your trim color as well ofcourse.

Alternatively for that kind of money for 2k, you can find a custom body shop that will just make it for you, and have them do a headliner for likely less than audi will charge you for the parts. But its' a ton of weight for the glass and motors, vs just the sheet metal.
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Old April 4th, 2020, 15:57   #53
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Installed 20x9.5 ET37 Vorsteiner VFF 102



I shaved about 8lbs per corner and increased wheel width by 1Ē- the handling has improved tremendously


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Old April 4th, 2020, 17:55   #54
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Looking real good. Sounds promising for me going to 20's. 2 questions....

1. Are you still running 255/45/20 or did you go bigger with the rims?

2. After the vogtland drop were you able to get the alignment 100% back into spec?
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Old April 4th, 2020, 20:43   #55
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Looking real good. Sounds promising for me going to 20's. 2 questions....

1. Are you still running 255/45/20 or did you go bigger with the rims?

2. After the vogtland drop were you able to get the alignment 100% back into spec?

Thanks Daemon!
1. Since I increased the wheel width and I didnít want to throw my speedometer off from my stock size tires and wheels, the best size tire to go with for a 20x9.5 wheel is a 265/45/20 (the difference is like 65.7mph when youíre actually going 65mph if I remember right). Any other tire size throws the speedometer off more. Like you mentioned though, a 255/45/20 would be the most accurate for a 20x8.5 wheel.

2. I took it over to Les Schwab since itís about a block away from my house. I drove about 40mi with my car not aligned to with the new springs (although I had my alignment checked a week beforehand and it was as good as it could be then so I donít think they had to do too much adjusting). The manager said the toe is typically out of wack when someone drops their car. I think the camber is only adjustable to a certain amount with the oem control arms? I honestly have no idea and donít understand what toe and caster are so Iíd be the wrong person to ask lol. Hereís my spec sheet AFTER I did my drop and had it aligned:



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Old April 5th, 2020, 09:47   #56
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Hey Diesel,

Isn't too bad, just looks like you need camber adjustments to bring it back into spec. You probably need something like these: https://store.034motorsport.com/034m...s5-q5-sq5.html

It looks like your still in spec in the rear( barely ) but I don't see anything anywhere for getting those into spec. Atleast the fronts are out a decent amount, and if it bothered you, you could get them back into spec... Tires might wear wierd, and won't contact the ground as well w/ negative camber out of spec... Your call ofcourse... hahahaha
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Old April 5th, 2020, 12:49   #57
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Oh nice! Like I said before, I have no idea what is considered ďsignificantly out of specĒ. You seem to know more about that stuff than I do. Is my car alignment significantly of out of spec? If Iím going to chew through tires every 20k miles, then Iíll definitely get the control arms that you posted with the adjustable camber kit.


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Old April 5th, 2020, 17:21   #58
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Hey Diesel,

Its' really a matter of who you ask to some degree. The stance guys would tell you more more more. But heres the reality in my view... The engineers at Audi know what the hell they're doing and spec for your car is 0 to -.8 .... So most that i know of suggest getting as close to 0 as possible, or at the very least in the middle of the spec... so in your case -.4 for the middle. You left front is -1.3 so almost 1 full degree off from "ideal" and your right is -.9 so about -.5 degrees off of idea. The more concerning thing to me at the very least is that the two sides are not equal, which means 1 wheel is leaning an extra almost -.4 degree from the other. I don't know I guess my though is the more you can make things equal out the more predictable it is. If it was me it would irk me and I'd order the the adjustable control arms. Something to consider if it meets your budget and seems interesting to you is if you have enough miles... you may want control arm, balljoints and etc... refresh w/ something a little more solid.... You could go w/ https://store.034motorsport.com/dens...a5-s5-rs5.html --- They have a "camber correcting" set which gets you those arms and the rest. But if you don't believe there is enough wear on the extra components and such I'd skip it. ( This is their "Density Line" so the rubber is a little more solid than the factor rubber giving much more precise and agile steering inputs, and less flex but not quite to the level of poly. This is the kit I'm going with when i get closer to 75k I plan on doing this full set, bilstein, and the vogtlands.... all at once. #CorneringBeast ... especially since i have the roll bars and etc... anyway...

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Old April 8th, 2020, 13:49   #59
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You probably have not driven much like all of us but have you had any opportunity to test out the DTUK TCU tune?
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Old April 8th, 2020, 14:48   #60
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You probably have not driven much like all of us but have you had any opportunity to test out the DTUK TCU tune?

Hey Pittdawg- I have! Iíve had it on for the last ~80 miles and love it. The shifts are much better: they are faster, the gears are no longer held at awkward RPMS (which happened after I deleted, straight piped, and tuned) and they donít jerk nearly as hard as before when going from a stop to driving; the car feels much better and overall more refined. When I put my car into dynamic mode, the difference is huge. The car shifts incredibly fast. Apparently the car is still ďlearningĒ during the first 100mi after the TCM tune is installed. One of the biggest reasons I got the TCM tune is because I plan on getting a bigger turbo along with an upgraded fuel pump in the future (Iíve already communicated with Darkside Developments regarding the specific pump upgrade) and wanted to make sure my transmission could hold the increased torque and hp. I believe the tune was worth the money and install was very simple. Install took about ~7min total which includes the 5min idle time after installing.
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