Immobilizer problem (2003 Jetta)

I think it's an immobilizer issue, the transponder and the key won't sync.
All those values look right excepting 022,n,n,0,n and 022,n,n,n,2.
The first indicates it will not be possible to match this particular key!
The second indicates you have 2 programmed keys, I'm guessing that's fine.
Have you tried the procedure where you simply leave the key in the ignition for like 2 hours?
There is a component in the dash (steering column) that syncs up with the chip in the FOB, obviously that was working before. I think it just needs a re-set.

Yea sorry, can't be much help. Try here if haven't already-
Immobilizer FAQ and troubleshooting for VW and Audi, with key
Also be sure the fuses are all good.

Seen a couple of these lately, immo kicking in after some service. Seems like bullstuff.

Jerry Stringer said:

Bob,

I left the key in the ignition with it in the on position overnight and no luck.

Jerry

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Yeah, that's just misinformation. So is disconnecting the battery an touching the positive to the negative. Does NOTHING except waste your time.

If you have an immobilizer deleted, the light doesn't go off?? What the heck! Did you attempt to delete the code in VCDS? That might work.

The cluster (which is responsible for reading the key) still complains when there's a bad key... can't help that.

When you send your ECU away for an immob delete the ECU gets re-programmed to ignore the annoyed cluster... and the car starts.

Cluster is still annoyed... light stays flashing.

Seen this before, system goes for a walk for some reason and needs a reset. Any good locksmith would be able to re-program the keys resetting the system back to normal. As for the IMMO delete, the cluster will still indicate it is not being satisfied. Black electrical tape is your friend.

Having never removed the instrument cluster before, is there a bulb to remove or a wire to clip that will turn of the flashing light? (I have no idea as to what the rear of the cluster looks like)

Jerry

It's a circuit board with everything soldered directly, including the immob LED.

Which is why "black electrical tape is your friend".

TDIFan1989 said:

Seen this before, system goes for a walk for some reason and needs a reset. Any good locksmith would be able to re-program the keys resetting the system back to normal. As for the IMMO delete, the cluster will still indicate it is not being satisfied. Black electrical tape is your friend.

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I'm curious about this as I had IMMO defeated on a previous (gasser) MKIV and did not experience the constant flashing light??

Have you tried asking M. Rodriguez why your light is still blinking? It shouldn't with a proper coding.

Jerry Stringer said:

Having never removed the instrument cluster before, is there a bulb to remove or a wire to clip that will turn of the flashing light? (I have no idea as to what the rear of the cluster looks like)

Jerry

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With a flashing immo light I just go into the back of the cluster. A dab of black paint on the immo led takes care of the problem.. Not sure about Jetta clusters , but 6 screws on a Beetle cluster and your in.

dweisel said:

With a flashing immo light I just go into the back of the cluster. A dab of black paint on the immo led takes care of the problem.. Not sure about Jetta clusters , but 6 screws on a Beetle cluster and your in.

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Jetta's are even simpler than the beetle. Pull the bottom plastic with rubber away and it exposes 2 - T25 screws (obviously don't let them fall down the black abyss). Back those off, pull gently on the cluster and pop the connectors off. There's a few Youtube vids on how to further disassemble the cluster to get at that IMMO light.

RexNICO said:

I'm curious about this as I had IMMO defeated on a previous (gasser) MKIV and did not experience the constant flashing light??

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Depends how you went about defeating the IMMO in your vehicle. Some go as far to remove or cover the IMMO light in the cluster. Otherwise I got no clue, ghost in the circuits playing nice I guess.

I had the Immoblizer deleted in the 2002 ALH set-up in my Vanagon (seems JFettig actually removed the chip). The light has never come on other than when I tested a junk yard ECU.

Vanagon's are a completely different beast from Golf/Jetta/Passat(s) in how their IMMO systems operate. That light staying off makes sense in that regard.

TDIFan1989 said:

Vanagon's are a completely different beast from Golf/Jetta/Passat(s) in how their IMMO systems operate. That light staying off makes sense in that regard.

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Apparently you never noticed my signature.

My Vanagon has a 2002 ALH TDI engine with about 90% of all the Bells and Whistles relating to its functions, etc., as when it was in the Jetta. I did install the Jetta ignition (yeah, two key system), with "two" OBD ports ... done 'er right! 80k miles on the conversion. http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=276798

Below, early in the project, OE Vanagon ignition (out of focus), Jetta ignition and OBD port on the dash of the Vanagon...



And, yes it is a Beast ...... but when the CEL comes on in the cluster (Jetta ), I connect my VCDS to see what's a happenin'

The OE Jetta Ignition operates the ALH engine independent of the various systems in the Vanagon with three exceptions, 1. Van ignition powers the ALH ignition, 2. The Van AC system tells the TDI AC Compressor when to kick-in, and 3. The Engine pushes the 'ell out of the Vanagon transmission when I ask it to do so with my foot! The modified/installed Jetta Cluster does tell me about fluid levels, temp, RPM, speed, odometer, CEL, and did tell me things about the Immoblizer.

But, I wanted rid of the Immoblizer... so, at the Annual TDI Fest in 2013, I had it deleted and a Stage 1 tune programmed! Works great!