Ontario Emissions

HalleyTDI · Feb 14, 2011

I did a quick search and didn't see anything. wondering if anyone had any information or links regarding emissions tests in Ontario for out TDIs

from what I've heard the "test" is a curb side idle, and it it doesn't smoke it passes.

do we need a catalytic converter on our diesels? EGR? crankcase vent?

just wondering. thanks

newtdidave · Feb 14, 2011

My last etest, the guy asked if it was diesel, I said yes and he rolled his eyes....It's a joke!!! If ur diesel car failed an etest, It has to have something majorly wrong with it. As for a catalytic converter, they generally don't check, and don't notice b/c they don't have readings.

chaloux · Feb 14, 2011

North of Severn Bridge (which is just South of Gravenhurst) is the cutoff for e-tests. I don't run a cat on the bug because of this. Even if there were etests here, read Dave's response: they're pretty much a joke.

Peytron · Feb 17, 2011

I remember seeing a Hamilton Spectator article that had some statistics. The article is no longer online, but it said something like out of 10,000 diesel vws tested since drive clean's inception, 2 failed.

GD · Feb 17, 2011

FYI, Premium Auto in Brampton and North York does emissions tests for $30 all in. I used them for the safety and emissions on my ML320 CDI. Safety was $35.

MoldovaDIZEL · Feb 17, 2011

35 bucks for safety??? how long ago was this?

imo000 · Feb 17, 2011

MoldovaDIZEL said:
35 bucks for safety??? how long ago was this?

The real question is, how honest are they? Last thing you want is unecesarry repairs.

GoFaster · Feb 17, 2011

Halley, officially they are supposed to do a visual inspection (which means the catalyst, EGR, crankcase vent are all supposed to be there) and then idle it for 5 minutes. If it emits visible smoke for more than 1 minute total out of that 5 then it fails.

In practice, it's "Start it up ... OK give me a minute ... Ya whatever, here's your filled out form"

imo000 · Feb 17, 2011

Actually it's not 1 total minute out of 5 but, one countinuous minute during the five.

But yes, it's a joke and considering it costs the same as the gasoline/dynow test, it's a total money grab too. It should cost $5 not $35.

MoldovaDIZEL · Feb 17, 2011

they didnt even start mine

cause i had the keys and they never asked..
its a diesel sir
oh,ok,thats 40$ pretty much how it goes

MoldovaDIZEL · Feb 17, 2011

imo000 said:
The real question is, how honest are they? Last thing you want is unecesarry repairs.

for 35$ might as well take a risk,i mean they cant make u do unecessary repairs if u have a valid knowledge of the grey area..

GD · Feb 17, 2011

MoldovaDIZEL said:
35 bucks for safety??? how long ago was this?

2 weeks ago, they advertise on CityTV on the ethnic shows.

MoldovaDIZEL · Feb 17, 2011

GD said:
2 weeks ago, they advertise on CityTV on the ethnic shows.

so its a short term promotion

GD · Feb 18, 2011

MoldovaDIZEL said:
so its a short term promotion

Not really, its been advertised for a long while.

vwmikey99 · Feb 18, 2011

I wonder what a diesel would score if put on an e-test treadmill compared to say a 2.0L jetta..

imo000 · Feb 18, 2011

MoldovaDIZEL said:
for 35$ might as well take a risk,i mean they cant make u do unecessary repairs if u have a valid knowledge of the grey area..

You'd be suprised what one mechanic might say is passable and the other no. As yourself this: Why are they half price from everyone else? Are they that desperate for business? If they are, why? In all reality you are only saving about $35. I found 2 honest shops in Cambridge that have been using for safety for 20 years. There are soooo many others that will make up $hit just to try to get your money. I do all my own work so they never saw a dime but it was a pisser when I had to pull a perfectly good part becaue the mechanic didn't want to pass it.

imo000 · Feb 18, 2011

vwmikey99 said:
I wonder what a diesel would score if put on an e-test treadmill compared to say a 2.0L jetta..

It would be the same as Stephen Hawking running the hurdles.

HalleyTDI · Feb 19, 2011

Thanks for the great info everyone. I actually just got the letter reminding me to renew my tags (and i need an emissions test this time) in the mail yesterday.

mo_focus · Feb 19, 2011

I usually pay 35$ for etest and 40$ for certify.

Etest is gov regulated price so its all the same.

Certification i pay 40$ bc of my dad's mechanics, they charge whatever they think its fair. Afterall they are the ones that are taking a risk not you. If anything happens then they will loose thier licence.

VeeDubTDI · Feb 19, 2011

Ontario Emissions?

GD · Feb 19, 2011

mo_focus said:
I usually pay 35$ for etest and 40$ for certify.

Etest is gov regulated price so its all the same.

I think the gov't sets the cap on etest fees but garages can charge anything below the regulated fee. Hence, Premium Auto charges $30 all in.

dieselsparky · Feb 19, 2011

imo000 said:
You'd be suprised what one mechanic might say is passable and the other no. As yourself this: Why are they half price from everyone else? Are they that desperate for business? If they are, why? In all reality you are only saving about $35. I found 2 honest shops in Cambridge that have been using for safety for 20 years. There are soooo many others that will make up $hit just to try to get your money. I do all my own work so they never saw a dime but it was a pisser when I had to pull a perfectly good part becaue the mechanic didn't want to pass it.

Just out of curiosity, what are the 2?

JASONP · Feb 19, 2011

VeeDubTDI said:

easy now........

imo000 · Feb 21, 2011

dieselsparky said:
Just out of curiosity, what are the 2?

Cambirdge Auto Repair (in Galt, Portugese owne) and Mufflerman on Helpeler Rd (across from the Cambridge Centre/mall, next to Arby's).

Bush Hopper · Feb 21, 2011

government officials room this site. I was pretty sure these kind of threads would get locked up to prevent unnecessary new regulations that would change emission standards or testing.

imo000 · Feb 21, 2011

Huh????? I'm confused.

HalleyTDI · Feb 28, 2011

Ok bit of an update. I went and got my first diesel emissions test today, and what everyone was saying happened.

They took it to the front and let it idle and watched for smoke. the guy had struggles getting it to the front of the shop. first he didn't know how to start it, then couldn't find reverse, then somehow managed to stall it.
anyways, they didn't seem to check for anything else (cat, crankcase vent, etc.) on the report it says N/A beside those things. so who knows if they were supposed to check or not. oh well.

They also didnt seem to mind the mufflerectomy, he must have been too mesmerized by the turbo whistle to notice

hope some of this was helpful to someone, especially those new to diesel emissions tests (like me

)

(Chart from my report)

BarrieCommuter · Feb 28, 2011

VeeDubTDI said:

i hear they are supposed to start pumping mint for that minty fresh exhaust smell.

dieselsparky · Feb 28, 2011

imo000 said:
Cambirdge Auto Repair (in Galt, Portugese owne) and Mufflerman on Helpeler Rd (across from the Cambridge Centre/mall, next to Arby's).

I've seen a few TDI's at Cambridge auto Repair for service every now and again, ever had work done there before or only safety?

imo000 · Feb 28, 2011

dieselsparky said:
I've seen a few TDI's at Cambridge auto Repair for service every now and again, ever had work done there before or only safety?

I do all my work but they have a really good reputation for being honest and fair priced. I've known them from before they moved to Christopher Dr.

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