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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old October 26th, 2018, 05:21   #166
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Is there much difference between the FSD and Special actives?
I have theFSD's along with an h&r rear sway bar on my 2015 passat.
Handles great but at low speeds on the unmaintained cali roads it can be stiff.
A stiffer Rsb will make cornering seem flatter, but ride quality suffers on bad roads. Also, as posted earlier in this long thread Fsds dont like to be lowered, Due to the bump stops confusing the special valve that controls damping. I am assumins same with the special actives. What springs?


On my heavy A3 vr6 awd, with bilsteins and h&r rsb for awd, the car cornered lika an old 911. Rode like one, too. Even w/awd was scary in the wet and snow. Im back to stock rsb and shocks now.

Special actives are going on the sportwagen when i find the time, and the wife isnt commuting, will updated when i do.
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Old October 26th, 2018, 06:37   #167
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mejpassat, where are you in CA? If you're in the north I think you will experience some harshness on any Euro suspension on the broken concrete roads up there. In SoCal roads are better (at least I think they are) and the Passat with FSDs should ride fine.
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Old October 26th, 2018, 20:51   #168
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So do you now recommend for a Golf Mk4 the Actives or the Reds? Also how would you compare them to the Bilstein Touring?
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Old October 27th, 2018, 04:29   #169
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I think either would be great. I think the Special Actives may ride a bit firmer on the Golf than on the heavier Jetta or NB. The MKIV suspension is pretty primitive, and any Koni, but especially the Special Actives, will make it ride and handle like a more sophisticated setup. I think the comparison to TCs is night and day. I find Billy TCs harsh on the MKIV, but still without great control. I've never liked them, although a lot of owners do.
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Old November 4th, 2018, 13:16   #170
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I installed the rear special actives in my wifes 2013 tdi sportwagen today. At 116k, the rear oem sachs were dead for sure. No gas pressure in either one. Bottom coil of one spring broken off. New oem rear springs and mounts. I added some audi TT upper spring seats for an extra quarter inch. Total, the rear sits 1.25 inches higher after a test drive, with the fresh suspension.

I must say, these thing are super comfortable. No harshness at all. If anything, on the soft side. First impression is very good. I think we will have to go for the fronts as well.
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Old November 5th, 2018, 07:59   #171
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Cant' say enough about the Active Specials. Replaced my Koni Streets on my 03 wagon with the actives a few months back & absolutely love the ride. Feels slightly less firm than the Streets - way more comfortable on bumps, and seems to corner just as well.
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Old December 17th, 2018, 11:48   #172
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Stoked to see this thread alive and well. My wallet is wincing, but my '03 Golf has gone a long time without any significant expenditure . . . I've got the suplex lift springs + Koni Active Specials inbound for all 4 corners to replace my broken springs and essentially trashed OEM mk4 suspension (204k miles).

A year ago I tackled ball joints, sway bar and lower control arm TT bushings, so fingers crossed I come out of the shop standing a whole heck of a lot taller and handling like a totally different car!
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 06:49   #173
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Im noticing that the koni special actives for mkv amd mk6 have several part numbers availabe, in addition to the sportwagen application from idparts. This would be for different weight ranges.
Tiguan, audi A3, golf, and others. Might be worth lookin into for my A3. The sportwagen app might be too soft for the A3Q
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 07:31   #174
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Im noticing that the koni special actives for mkv amd mk6 have several part numbers availabe, in addition to the sportwagen application from idparts. This would be for different weight ranges.
Tiguan, audi A3, golf, and others. Might be worth lookin into for my A3. The sportwagen app might be too soft for the A3Q
The part numbers you see for Special Actives are for MKIV (all), MKV and VI, including Sedan (IRS) and Sportwagen, and MKVII (all). No wagon-specific rears, no rears for beam axle MKVI Jetta Sedan or Beetle. So it's pretty simple. No weight range variation. I don't know of any aftermarket damper maker who does that. If your A3 is the '06 in your signature, you'd get the ones or MKV/VI.
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 07:41   #175
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Peter, any word on when the MK VII rears (twist beam) might be coming in to regular stock? I hope that is still the expectation.
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Still going to happen, I honestly don't recall when. If I had to guess I would expect during the first quarter. I'll ask after the first of the year. Thanks for the reminder.
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 10:24   #177
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From koni na application lookup: rears, special active:

2010 passat cc, golf R rear koni sa pn 8045 1085

2013 jsw, golf 6, 8045 1084.

09-16 tiggy fwd and awd 8045 1228

08 R32 8045 1083

06-13 Audi A3 fwd and awd 8045 1226

Would love to see rebound and compression dynos compared.

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Old December 22nd, 2018, 11:25   #178
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Only one of those vehicles is a diesel. I was, of course, only reporting on diesel applications.
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Old December 22nd, 2018, 12:38   #179
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Of course. And they are great in TDI Wagon!
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Stoked to see this thread alive and well. My wallet is wincing, but my '03 Golf has gone a long time without any significant expenditure . . . I've got the suplex lift springs + Koni Active Specials inbound for all 4 corners to replace my broken springs and essentially trashed OEM mk4 suspension (204k miles).

A year ago I tackled ball joints, sway bar and lower control arm TT bushings, so fingers crossed I come out of the shop standing a whole heck of a lot taller and handling like a totally different car!
And it is FANTASTIC:
- 27.75" or so in the front, 28" height in the rear from the center of the tire to the highest point in the wheel arch. Which is probably 2ish" greater than my old broke-down-busted suspension ride height, minimum.
- In RI we have a variety of professionally prepared road surfaces, from heavy right shoulder "drainage" holes, full-on cold patch washboard, to standard smooth concrete with expansion joints . . . now I can't pretend to compare to stock or Koni Reds, but the Koni Active product that I now have is definitely firm, but does a great job on anything I drive on locally.
- My wallet's feelings are not significantly hurt
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