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Old October 16th, 2005, 23:06   #1
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Default Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

Can someone tell me why diesel is $3.27/ gal in Chicago suburbs and regular unleaded is $2.67/ gal ? Is it this expensive everywhere or are we just getting reamed in Illinois ? Why is gas so much cheaper?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 03:33   #2
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$2.90 unleaded, $3.00 diesel ( some still at $3.27 for diesel) in SW florida
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Old October 17th, 2005, 04:27   #3
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I have a station by me that is 3.26 diesel and 2.39 regular. Home heating season is upon us.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 06:35   #4
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Yes, they use the home heating oil excuse, BUT, it has been high, even before the heating season. It really ticks me off. It is cheaper to produce, yet it is higher in price. Yes I know, supply and demand, China buying up as much as they can, etc. But, still I think it is us getting the shaft, bottom line!

I am suprized the truckers are not complaining more than they are. How do the indy's make a living? Probably by passing the cost on to you and me.

Don't forget the upcharge for cold weather blending. I have not seen that yet, but it is coming. They add kero to the fuel, we get less fuel, less mileage, and then they charge us more for it. Gotta love it.

I guess it boils down to this: can't really do much about it except cut back on consumption. They got us by the short hairs and they know it. There, I feel better now. Kevin
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Old October 17th, 2005, 08:19   #5
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Default Re: Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

In Chicago you get boinked by Cook County and Chicago City taxes on the fuel + Illinois State gets sales tax as well.

No sales taxes on Fuel in Iowa at all. There is absolutely no reason in the world Diesel shold be this high in price.
Diesel historically has never been as high as unleaded gas and historically it has always ben about .20 per gallon cheaper at least here in Illinois.

Just about one week before Houston got slammed with their Hurricane, I loaded up on diesel. I bought 1000 gallons of BP Premier "on road" and I had it blended with 20% Bio (Soy) for a blend of B20. I even had the driver dump my bottles of Power Service into the tank. I paid $2.855 per gallon. I do not know where the market is going, but at least I can somewhat Hedge myself now that I have storage.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 09:44   #6
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Default Re: Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

$2.99-3.39 here, depending on the station.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 10:46   #7
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OH NO! not the cook county tax acessor.

Sounds like a movie.

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Old October 17th, 2005, 11:01   #8
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Default Re: Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

This past weekend I drove from Michigan to Kentucky and back. I also saw prices in Indiana and Ohio. Each state had diesel at 20 to 40 cents higher than regular gas.

Is gas being "subsidized" somehow?
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Old October 17th, 2005, 11:39   #9
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Default Re: Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

Probably somebody wants to show everyone there is no advantage in diesel powered cars... This looks like a real speculation - I'm wondering why truckers are still so calm (I would expect road blockages if this keeps going like this)
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Old October 17th, 2005, 14:48   #10
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Because truckers can pass the difference on to consumers in the form of fuel surcharges. You and I can't.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 16:35   #11
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Some independent truckers have contracts that pay millage plus fuel and some are stuck in contracts they bid on. Some guys have been caught in these per mile or per load/bushel/pound contracts and forced to park their rigs in order to get out of their contracts. They can't drive or they would be sued for breach of contract. Not very many of them but that's like saying their aren't many whom get killed on the road. All fine talk unless you're one of them.

Whenever you start feeling sorry for yourself you can always find someone with problems which make yours pale in comparison.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 16:39   #12
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Fact is the world demand for diesel is up due to commercial expansion adding more trucking and rail around the world. The supply side is lagging behind and then comes Our LOCAL refinery problems. So any one using diesel or heating oil will pay the price. Hopefully short term for road fuel but heating oil is something I personally see declining in popularity over the next ten years. Being replaced by domestic sources of energy. btw we import just short of 50% of our oil into this country. At the present price of oil we don't have any rational reason to import oil into this country for home heating fuel. but it will take a few years to convert infrastructure.

I did see a big windmill South-East of Jacksonville, IL last week. Beautiful thing to see. Some think we can get seven percent of our energy from wind.

We'll have this sorted out in about fifteen years.
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Old October 17th, 2005, 19:38   #13
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Default Re: Midwest diesel fuel prices.........

Quote:
OH NO! not the cook county tax acessor.

Sounds like a movie.


Are we puttin' the band back together?

Dry white toast?

Illinois ****s?

Carrie Fisher with a bazooka is hot.

Man. Now I gotta go rent it...
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Old October 17th, 2005, 19:47   #14
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$3.139 to $3.399 in East Central IL (Danville area at least) for D2. Even premium gas is 60 cents less, let alone regular gas.
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Old October 18th, 2005, 07:27   #15
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Now you know the reason I either get fuel in Bensenville or Elmhurst. I won't to buy fuel in Cook county.
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