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VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

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Old March 12th, 2018, 11:29   #1
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Default 01 Dangerous Handling- Need Ideas Please

Been a while since I checked in so I'll give a quick update and get to the issue.
The replacement trans has been flawless, couldn't be happier.
Finally fixed a valve cover gasket and now my car is not leaving oil puddles everywhere!
Recently replaced my Raxles at no cost (this is why I bought from them). Put in new ball joints, brakes, etc..

The problem: The car feels like it wants to tip over with any turn of the wheel at speed. It feels very top heavy sort of. Squirly and loose. I thought the shocks/struts were gone, but shop says no. I asked them to search suspension for loose/broken stuff,...nothing. Car has new A arms, ball joints. Koni yellows are getting a little long in the tooth?
Could it be alignment? I just had it done and it still feels weird.
Tires? Like if I was running them flat and they give no side to side resistance. But they aren't low.

I feels like the rear, but hard to say. If the shocks had no more expansion resistance, I think this is what is would feel like.

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Old March 12th, 2018, 11:43   #2
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Rear axle bushings?
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Old March 12th, 2018, 11:46   #3
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They are on the list of never replaced. At 260k maybe they need to be, thanks.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 13:41   #4
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Rear axle bushings?
X2. At higher miles it's almost a given they are shot. Makes for very noticeable quirkiness in crosswind situations typically and steering weirdness in general.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 15:47   #5
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Try pushing your car sideways right above the rear tires. If the car moves more than normal tire flex, it's almost certainly the beam bushings.
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Old March 12th, 2018, 17:04   #6
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+1 on the rear bushings, they can get very soft. If nothing work with front susp. then most likely suspect. If you can borrow the kit to replace its not a bad job, just respect the orientation when they go back in.
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Old March 13th, 2018, 04:36   #7
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Ordered new bushings. Will advise post installation, thanks
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Old March 13th, 2018, 04:52   #8
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You ordered Cupra Rs, yes?
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Old March 13th, 2018, 17:39   #9
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yes, thanks
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Old March 13th, 2018, 19:14   #10
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The car I just bought has the same feel. Like when you drive on a metal grate bridge. Shop told me rear axle beam was rusted and should be replaced as well as control arms.
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Old March 14th, 2018, 12:16   #11
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Maybe it is rusted, but you can oil it with preservative sprays and replace the rear bushings. And find a shop you can trust. Or better, learn to do your own wrenching.

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Old March 15th, 2018, 03:37   #12
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Depends on the extent of the rust. If it's a safety issue I'd look to go by their recommendation. Broken suspension bits due to rusting out aren't all that uncommon (seems to happen quite a bit with springs).

Superficial rust ain't an issue, in which case do as PH suggests (and a second opinion on more costly repairs is always a good idea as well).
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Old March 15th, 2018, 13:17   #13
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My car has no body roll at all to speak of: Koni Yellow, 1 weight up on springs, full suspension refresh including rear axle bushings.

I was on my home and a car zipped into my lane out of an alley, I stomped it and did a tight zig zag to avoid hitting the car coming out of the alley and the parked car on the other side: it was like the car was on rails.
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I might ask if this came on all of a sudden, gradually or is the car a recent acquisition.
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Old March 16th, 2018, 02:52   #15
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You might want to take it in for an alignment. Thinking that perhaps you're experiencing over-steer: the rear is being too active/sensitive to steering (this would be, I'd think, also a symptom of/from bad rear axle bushings).
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