www.tdiclub.com

Economy - Longevity - Performance
The #1 Source of TDI Information on the Web!
Forums Articles Links Meets
Orders TDI Club Cards TDIFest 2016 Gone, but not forgotten VAG-Com List Unit Conversions TDIClub Chat Thank You

Order your TDIClub merchandise and help support TDIClub


Go Back   TDIClub Forums > TDI Model Specific Discussions Areas > VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD)

VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) This is a general discussion about A4/MkIV Jetta (99.5-~2005), Golf(99.5-2006), and New Beetle(98-2006). Both VE and PD engines are covered here.

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old October 16th, 2014, 18:02   #1
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default Help, 2005 golf stalled and won't start

I have a 2005 golf, 1.9L, 5 speed manual with 140,000 miles. I was driving down the highway at 80mph and my car stalled and the temperature warning light came on. I coasted to a stop and while waiting for it to cool down I noticed my coolant reservoir had ample coolant in it. There was no steam present like in most overheat situations, so I don't know if it actually overheated. The car cranks as normal, but the car still wouldn't start a couple of days later, so I replaced my fuel pump and relay 109. The ASV is open. The timing belt and water pump were replaced about 35,000 miles ago and the belt still appears to be in good condition. Please help me get her running again. Thank you.

Last edited by sparkyk; October 16th, 2014 at 18:12.
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 06:07   #2
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

Bump for help. Any ideas guys?
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 09:26   #3
jimbote
 
jimbote's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: spiral arm, milky way (aka central NC)
Fuel Economy: golf=38-43mpg...tacoma tdi=29-33mpg
Default

unhook the boost pipe from the intake and try cranking
__________________
'You know what? This is a business.' So, now, I just keep my mouth shut and pet my chihuahuas." Mickey Rourke
jimbote is online now   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 11:04   #4
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

I unhooked boost pipe and mityvaced the return from tandem pump at the T. Had good fuel without bubbles. Still no start.
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 11:08   #5
whitedog
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bend, Oregon
Default

You have a pump in the tank so you don't need to worry about air in the fuel system. You can remove the line coming out of the filter to the head and turn the key on to see if you get fuel coming out.

You can check for codes.

Does the tach register when cranking the engine?
__________________
Can rent movies at BlockBuster.
whitedog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 11:22   #6
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

Fuel comes out after the filter when cranking. I can't check codes until tomorrow, and my tach registers when cranking. I just bought a cheap reader though because I don't have the money for a ross tech right now, so hopefully it will still be able to tell me something
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 19th, 2014, 11:25   #7
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

I also get fuel back to the T on the filter when cranking, but not as much that comes out of the filter. I dont know if its restricted inside of the tandem pump or if its supposed to be like that.
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 20th, 2014, 12:11   #8
Dimitri16V
Veteran Member
 
Dimitri16V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DE
Default

check the timing belt . sounds like the water pump seized and shredded the belt
__________________
2004 Golf TDi 412K, 87 Rocco
2016 Toyota Corolla S
2016 Golf TSI ( reinforced metal oil pan , VCDS tweaks)
Aleksander Prokhorenko , Charles Keating ,Russian and US special forces KIA against ISIS. RIP heroes
Dimitri16V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 20th, 2014, 13:05   #9
JB05
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Il.USA
Fuel Economy: 43/41/40
Default

Flakey or faulty crank shaft position sensor might be the culprit.
JB05 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 20th, 2014, 13:44   #10
pruzink
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Granbury, Texas
Fuel Economy: 42
Default

When a car stalls, a bunch of the warning lights come on. If the coolant warning came on by itself, then I might fear that Dimitri16V above could be correct in his diagnosis. I also agree with JB05 that a bad crank shaft speed sensor will prevent the engine from running (when mine was failing it didn't set any check engine codes).
pruzink is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 20th, 2014, 14:43   #11
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

Ok, my scanner came in today. I have 3 glow plug sensor troubles, which is due to a faulty harness. I have known about this for a while as the new harness is in the garage waiting to be installed. I also have code 17987 which is an immobilizer issue and 19464 cam shaft sensor. Would the cam shaft sensor cause the immobilizer issue? How do I fix it? Also will erasing these codes cause any issues? Also, my timing belt appears to be in good condition.
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 20th, 2014, 19:17   #12
LNXGUY
Veteran Member
 
LNXGUY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Barrie, Ont, Canada
Default

Cam sensor shouldn't stop the car from starting (Although the crank sensor will).. The Imb fault might the culprit here.
__________________
Bill
---------------------
LNXGUY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 21st, 2014, 15:27   #13
sparkyk
Newbie
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Michigan
TDI(s): 2005 golf
Default

Water pump seized. God willing nothing in the motor is trashed. Pray for no bent valves
sparkyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 21st, 2014, 16:39   #14
Dimitri16V
Veteran Member
 
Dimitri16V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DE
Default

I was hoping I was wrong

for the record , who was the water pump manufacturer ?
__________________
2004 Golf TDi 412K, 87 Rocco
2016 Toyota Corolla S
2016 Golf TSI ( reinforced metal oil pan , VCDS tweaks)
Aleksander Prokhorenko , Charles Keating ,Russian and US special forces KIA against ISIS. RIP heroes
Dimitri16V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old October 21st, 2014, 16:44   #15
whitedog
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bend, Oregon
Default

Seized water pump means teeth stripped off of the belt. Teeth stripped off of the belt means it's probably out of time.

Before pulling anything apart, check the timing relationship of the crank, and cam. If they are more than two teeth off at the cam, you need to pull the head and inspect for valve to piston contact.
__________________
Can rent movies at BlockBuster.
whitedog is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
'05 Golf stalled and won't start bf1967 VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) 14 November 25th, 2010 21:52
Engine Stalled, Now Won't Start. Please Help... Big Jimmy VW MKIV-A4 TDIs (VE and PD) 21 January 27th, 2010 07:20
stalled and now won't start massey860 TDI 101 16 March 22nd, 2009 20:38
2005 TDI - loss of power, stalled, and won't start (noob) pinkfreud55 TDI 101 35 January 16th, 2008 04:45
Won't start after it stalled out. dmulert VW MKIII-A3/B4 TDIs 4 July 27th, 2007 09:54


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:06.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright - TDIClub Online LTD - 2017
Contact Us | Privacy Statement | Forum Rules | Disclaimer
TDIClub Online Ltd (TDIClub.com) is not affiliated with the VWoA or VWAG and is supported by contributions from viewers like you.
1996 - 2020, All Rights Reserved
Page generated in 0.18986 seconds with 13 queries
[Output: 120.24 Kb. compressed to 99.53 Kb. by saving 20.71 Kb. (17.23%)]