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Old April 18th, 2013, 17:57   #1
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Default 2013 Volkswagen Jetta Hybrid vs. Jetta GLI vs. Jetta TDI vs. Jetta 2.5

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparis...i-vs-25-review

Car and Driver compares Jettas.
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Old April 18th, 2013, 20:37   #2
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Well that answers my questions about the hybridkay mpg plus premium gas doesn't equal TDI. TDI is even better if you get to use a manual.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 07:50   #3
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The hybrid was not given full disclosure or details. The SEL premium offers many upgrades such as hid headlamps, fended audio, led tail lamps. Body effects for lower .cd.

The hybrid has a electric only mode for upto 1.1 miles. The dsg will clutch and shut the motor off when coasting. I test drove one and was very impressed. Had it been a golf version I would have easily considered it. The tdi is awesome but its not without known issues that can cost $$$$$ in hassle and repairs.

I would assume a skilled driver could easily top 48-50 mpg in the hybrid which is the same for the tdi.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 11:27   #4
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They left out the 2.0
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:12   #5
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1.8 will replace 2.5 in 2014 models.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 12:41   #6
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The hybrid was not given full disclosure or details. The SEL premium offers many upgrades such as hid headlamps, fended audio, led tail lamps. Body effects for lower .cd.

The hybrid has a electric only mode for upto 1.1 miles. The dsg will clutch and shut the motor off when coasting. I test drove one and was very impressed. Had it been a golf version I would have easily considered it. The tdi is awesome but its not without known issues that can cost $$$$$ in hassle and repairs.

I would assume a skilled driver could easily top 48-50 mpg in the hybrid which is the same for the tdi.
You may be right. I can get low to mid 40s mpg on my commutes into Boston, and not highway driving. When I am on the highway I'm usually mid 40s to 50 mpg (in warmer weather). I'd love to have one of the hybrids for a week to see how I can do. I'd really try to maximize the regenerative breaking opportunities.
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Old April 19th, 2013, 14:18   #7
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The regen braking is really quick. I hypermiiled and drained the battery. After just one regen braking period for a u turn I had recharged the lithium ion battery.

If I had been given a long overnight test drive period I may have considered the hybrid even more so if my commute was mostly city. The car would be optimal over a tdi for city use.

VW needs to promote the car better and offer long test drives.
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Old April 30th, 2013, 16:50   #8
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This was a fun article about some very nice cars. I of course prefer the TDI since I bought one. But I did own an 06 rabbit 2.5 and that was a very nice car also. The biggest complaint about the 2.5 for me was the fuel economy for such a small car.
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Old May 2nd, 2013, 19:28   #9
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Coming out of a Prius I seriously considered the Jetta hybrid, and drove one right after having driven the TDI Passat. I liked it. It drove much more nicely than my Prius IMHO and though I doubt it would do as well for mileage, I would have been happy to make the slight trade off for better driving characteristics. But... it was too late, because I was already sold on the Passat--bigger, quieter and even peppier with the TDI. More comfortable highway car. I know it will be more expensive to maintain, but just hoping for adequate reliability. Also, the Jetta hybrid expensive even compared to the Jetta TDI. The Passat seemed a lot more car for the money. The Jetta hybrid is also competing against the Fusion hybrid and soon the Accord, both in the same price range.
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They left out the 2.0
Yeah, and given that VW leads off so much advertising with the 2.0's price point, they should have included it. If only to make the other engine offerings look that much better!
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Yeah, and given that VW leads off so much advertising with the 2.0's price point, they should have included it. If only to make the other engine offerings look that much better!
I can say that in Quebec, the majority of Jettas are the 2.0 followed very closely by TDIs; 2.5s are in the minority and hybrids rare still. So it would have made sense to include the model that most people buy.
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Old May 14th, 2013, 11:10   #12
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I just traded away my TDI for the Hybrid. The TDI was great when logging lots of miles, but family driving patterns were shifting and it was time to look at alternatives.

Did a 300 mile RT yesterday:

~39.8 MPG (computer) outbound - highway - cruise (72MPH) - AC on
Golf TDI would consistently do 41-42 MPG on this kind of run.

~46.9 MPG (computer) return leg - secondary roads - 55-60MPH - AC off
Golf TDI would typically do this at 44-45 MPG on this kind of run

The Hybrid is snappy but it is NO TDI. When you consider energy / mile rather than gallons / mile and the fact that diesel has ~ 30% more energy content / gallon, the Hybrid would have gotten ~ 61 MPG (46.9 x 1.3) if the engine had been diesel rather than gasoline. I doubt VW will be building a diesel hybrid any time soon.
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