Replacment for displacment!!!!!

leon10tagg · Jul 12, 2011

So the limitation of the ve was max fuel delivery vs max rpm......whereas the in-line pump delivers at higher rpm and helps to control the low down torque.....

NoJoke · Jul 12, 2011

Wow I'm very excited for ya Andy! With a little sorting we'll see low 12's.

kooyajerms · Jul 12, 2011

Make another video when you can Andy, I need to experience more of that thing!

3L3M3NT · Jul 13, 2011

kooyajerms said:
Make another video when you can Andy, I need to experience more of that thing!

I'd have to agree.

The other video is awesome!

andy2 · Jul 13, 2011

leon10tagg said:
So the limitation of the ve was max fuel delivery vs max rpm......whereas the in-line pump delivers at higher rpm and helps to control the low down torque.....

The inline pump will still deliver 250cc's at any speed form Idle to 4800 rpm.Its actually a challenge to rev up the engine without over fueling it to the point where it stalls out.

foxracer1 · Jul 15, 2011

Pullers get to that point. They will add fuel to the point it actually cools it down. Like you said it starts to "flood" it out.

Awesome vid. I remember seeing the car @ WF15. Never did get a chance to see you run.

shadowmaker · Jul 21, 2011

andy2 said:
Now full fueling starts to taper off at 4800 approx and is set to 250cc's.

Best power should be attained around 6500rpm so just consentrate on this problem and you get all the power you need...

Alcaid · Jul 21, 2011

shadowmaker said:
Best power should be attained around 6500rpm so just consentrate on this problem and you get all the power you need...

On a TDI? Sure you're not talking IDI?

shadowmaker · Jul 21, 2011

Alcaid said:
On a TDI? Sure you're not talking IDI?

I'm not THAT old yet to confuse between IDI and TDI. Plus I'm never wrong...

I know a TDI which has best power @6800rpm. A race engine, but still.

Alcaid · Jul 21, 2011

shadowmaker said:
I know a TDI which has best power @6800rpm. A race engine, but still.

Crazy!

Didn't even think that was physically possible on a TDI considering the short time window for combustion when rev'ing that high. Crazy high PCP?

Dyno sheet, please

TDIJetta99 · Jul 21, 2011

Alcaid said:
Crazy!
Didn't even think that was physically possible on a TDI considering the short time window for combustion when rev'ing that high. Crazy high PCP?
Dyno sheet, please

It can happen... Mine, along with a few more of us over here, will rev to 6000 without much of an issue.. Fueling is definitely a problem way up high though.. My 99 with stock internals put up with 5800rpm for quite a long time..

Alcaid · Jul 21, 2011

TDIJetta99 said:
It can happen... Mine, along with a few more of us over here, will rev to 6000 without much of an issue.. Fueling is definitely a problem way up high though.. My 99 with stock internals put up with 5800rpm for quite a long time..

i know 6k is possible on a TDI, but there is a long way up to 6800rpm, and the increase in PCP would be sick! I'm revving over 6k every day in my daily beater, but thats a 1.6TD (IDI)

shadowmaker · Jul 21, 2011

Alcaid said:
Dyno sheet, please

Not possible. If I show it to you, then I have to kill you...

Not VW, but still TDI. And we are talking about +250bhp/L... Which is nice.

Alcaid · Jul 21, 2011

shadowmaker said:
Not VW, but still TDI. And we are talking about +250bhp/L... Which is nice.

How many seconds of racing between overhauls?

shadowmaker · Jul 21, 2011

Alcaid said:
How many seconds of racing between overhauls?

Not many.

2footbraker · Jul 21, 2011

Do you have to do anything to increase oil pressure while running two turbos?

andy2 · Jul 22, 2011

I only have a new stock oil pump and the pressure is low.Definitely could use a higher flow pump or even a smaller oil pump drive sproket.When the oil is up to operating temperature the pressure drops to 0 psi at idle on my gage.I know its not actually at 0 psi beacuse I use the vw oil pressure switch to power up my feed pump relay and the fuel pump has never quit and the pressure switch is .9 bar/13.2 psi.

It would be nice to see 450-500 bhp from this engine.

greengeeker · Jul 22, 2011

You've seen the BRM oil pump retrofit yes?

andy2 · Jul 22, 2011

greengeeker said:
You've seen the BRM oil pump retrofit yes?

No,is there infromation on how much more flow its capeable of ?

Alcaid · Jul 22, 2011

andy2 said:
No,is there infromation on how much more flow its capeable of ?

http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=271919

greengeeker · Jul 22, 2011

Upgrading to the BRM pump

Somebody posted their own thread recently on this mod but I can't seem to find it....maybe whitbread or tdijetta99?

andy2 · Jul 22, 2011

Very good,Thanks guys.

shadowmaker · Jul 24, 2011

Be carefull when starting to rev it up with faster rotating oil pump. On our MB oil pump starts to cavitate at ~7000rpm.

TDIJetta99 · Jul 24, 2011

greengeeker said:
Upgrading to the BRM pump

Somebody posted their own thread recently on this mod but I can't seem to find it....maybe whitbread or tdijetta99?

It was whitbread I believe.. I'm pretty sure I commented in it somewhere..

candela · Oct 14, 2011

Beast

v8 coupe · Oct 17, 2011

I just did this to my ALH and you will also need the updated BRM chain tensioner. these are currently in short supply in NA ( I work at a dealer I just check on availability for mine), took me 3 weeks to get the sprocket and chain.

Keebler145 · Oct 17, 2011

Franko6 carries them in stock almost ALL the time....

ahem edited for not reading the above posts haha

cwarner · Oct 22, 2011

Just a question. Everything you've done is way over my head so don't flame me if it's a stupid question. In the video it looked like you had to rev it quite a bit to build boost. Is there any way you can add a two step like the gasser drag cars ? This is how they control boost off the starting line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyd9O4mHYfc

Kudo's to you though, awesome fab work and can't wait to see it all dialed in.

Thought this out and there would be no way to do it. On gassers the two steps/ and or rev limiters are going thru ignition modules.. no way to to that on a diesel.

andy2 · Oct 23, 2011

cwarner said:
Just a question. Everything you've done is way over my head so don't flame me if it's a stupid question. In the video it looked like you had to rev it quite a bit to build boost. Is there any way you can add a two step like the gasser drag cars ? This is how they control boost off the starting line.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyd9O4mHYfc

Kudo's to you though, awesome fab work and can't wait to see it all dialed in.

Thought this out and there would be no way to do it. On gassers the two steps/ and or rev limiters are going thru ignition modules.. no way to to that on a diesel.

Hi,We have got alot figured out and I now have a line lock to hold the front brakes.I can now build plenty of boost and take off quite well.

I was at the drag strip yesterday and made 4 runs without breaking anything

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11.470 @ 122.79 mph with a 1.872 0-60 time.

The car is working well but there is more potential.The tires are old and I could'nt hook up as well as I should.We know that this engine can more power and the car might be swapped out for a mk2 golf.

mk1-83 · Oct 23, 2011

nice work andy,, maybe a mk2 country AWD

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