xjay1337
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You need a lot more than 270.bhp to be doing 107mph @ 401m
270bhp on stock injectors? (PD130 ASZ)
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Sheppy
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................. his car is built for drag racing. Pretty simple to not smoke on the road.... just don't put full throttle?Great thread, sort of.
Skillturbo's, kudo's on your power level but your smoke free tune is laughable at best. If you drove that around here, you'd be neck punched for being a dick. I am surprised the Police haven't pulled you over or some enviro **** hasn't made you suck on your own tail pipe.
Every high power TDI you find on the drag strip which is worth something produces considerable smoke....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd-hQoPD4TQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ol6n8XAUy-g
We are talking about crank power.
Yes obviously the exhaust valve opens at some point, that point is 61.8 degrees ATDC.
Hah, looks whos back with more salty worthless dribble comments lacking any reasonable diesel knowledge
What's your point again? We tune deisels...... because more fuel.... is more smoke? Even that doesn't make sense, because if you add more air along with more fuel, you don't get more smoke............
More worthless dribble, did you forget exit speeds depend on the weight of the car? How exactly did you calculate that you need "a lot more than 270bhp"? What experience is this based on? What weight vehical are you talking about? 2000kg???????
107mph terminal speed is PERFECTLY reasonable for a 1 tonne or less car.
In fact, here's a Lupo doing exactly that.........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdRlXskkAWQ
Just to set the record straight for those who don't know and have to read this crap and take it for truth
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Not really. Last time I checked Bobby Singhs 12.1 pass there was no smoke. Yet it being a full street car weighing excess of 1.8 metric tonnes.
There are some other fast diesel cars too running a normal lambda and therefore no smoke.
The difference between no smoke and a lot of smoke is, lets say when injection atomisation and window are good. Less than 10% at high rpm. Difference between lambda 1.05 and 1.15. In a normal case in a modern DI diesel engine during steady state WOT you are almost always egt limited past 4k rpm
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Sorry, then that's a tuners bs way of saying smoke makes power. Many diesel tuners have figured out how to make power without that dumb smoke screen that piss's everyone off.
xjay1337
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Sheppy, why wait months to reply? That reply wasn't even worth your time.
A Lupo is not a Polo or Ibiza or Fabia, is it?
Sam Levett's Fabia is doing 110 or so 401m, and he has claimed 380bhp.
My friends Passat PPD170 is also doing 110+ mph terminals with similar power.
Previously it was said that basically, smoke is good, that is why we tune diesels. Wrong, in my eyes. But that's what Skillaturbozzzzzzz said.
A Lupo is not a Polo or Ibiza or Fabia, is it?
Sam Levett's Fabia is doing 110 or so 401m, and he has claimed 380bhp.
My friends Passat PPD170 is also doing 110+ mph terminals with similar power.
Previously it was said that basically, smoke is good, that is why we tune diesels. Wrong, in my eyes. But that's what Skillaturbozzzzzzz said.
Helmut3
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What is the argument behind smoke is an indication of power? Is it just that you dont need to worry about underfueling? i.e. you are always providing enough and more fuel for the air you have. In other words with overfueling you cannot lose power and with underfueling you can?
Helmut3
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Hi Rob, in practice does lambda 1,05 have more power than 1,15? theoretical says 1,3 is ideal.
Are you on drugs?
Max power is obviously near lambda 1. 1.3 is is definitely not ideal for power.
Helmut3
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bedankt. I think the 1,3 came from reading about stock settings; in that case probably to save dpf.
Macradiators.com
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That sounds like bs. 2bar for 272hp? just wow
Macradiators.com
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he forgot to mention the 50 shot of nos lol
Bobby Singh
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ARL
2060vklr
2.35bar
80% nozzles
Ported head
32deg duration
800deg egt - 5th gear wot
300hp
2060vklr
2.35bar
80% nozzles
Ported head
32deg duration
800deg egt - 5th gear wot
300hp
Helmut3
Well-known member
when you will move from tractor industry to compound?
adamss24
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Gtb2060vklr is far from tractor industry parafenalia ! It’s one of the most advanced small frame turbochargers available for automotive industry ! I think you should refrain from trolling the forum, all I have seen in your posts is my di**k is bigger than yours kinda talk !
xjay1337
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I can't agree with this one...Eastern European dyno seem to be the place to go for figures.
May ship my car there
Macradiators.com
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I dont agree either, fact fastest sh|thole romanian 3.0d goes 2s faster than uk's best
measured by racelogic on 100-200.
i was wrong, it's 2.2 seconds faster, that alone should tell you how incompetent we are around here.
measured by racelogic on 100-200.
i was wrong, it's 2.2 seconds faster, that alone should tell you how incompetent we are around here.
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xjay1337
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303 hp stock fuel pump stock head on a 2.0 cr yes legit dyno my friends.
Mac you change your tune daily
Only a week ago you were telling me "I finally realise local tuners are lying" about our friend at DIO and "dynos here already over estimate"
Now you are back on saying how amazing they are.
hahahahahha
Mac you change your tune daily
Only a week ago you were telling me "I finally realise local tuners are lying" about our friend at DIO and "dynos here already over estimate"
Now you are back on saying how amazing they are.
hahahahahha
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Macradiators.com
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Dont know who's got 303 on stock pump , they have a pump bigger than your 505hp one lol
About the hp..no comment.
Who is talking about dio? There are actually better tuners here
And yet that tuner did 12.0 and 11.8 on 402m.
Dont piss against the wind, you might get the taste of it.
I repeat myself, LOL as much as you want, but give us something else than optimistic dyno runs and sh:t.
And please no youtube videos as proof of performance. LOL
And please change the disc, we've had enough of your head chocking and lambda 1.
About the hp..no comment.
Who is talking about dio? There are actually better tuners here
And yet that tuner did 12.0 and 11.8 on 402m.
Dont piss against the wind, you might get the taste of it.
I repeat myself, LOL as much as you want, but give us something else than optimistic dyno runs and sh:t.
And please no youtube videos as proof of performance. LOL
And please change the disc, we've had enough of your head chocking and lambda 1.
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C'mon guys, you both have sweet builds. This isn't F1, and you aren't Senna and Prost. No need for bad blood.
xjay1337
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Dont know who's got 303 on stock pump , they have a pump bigger than your 505hp one lol
About the hp..no comment.
Who is talking about dio? There are actually better tuners here
And yet that tuner did 12.0 and 11.8 on 402m.
Dont piss against the wind, you might get the taste of it.
I repeat myself, LOL as much as you want, but give us something else than optimistic dyno runs and sh:t.
And please no youtube videos as proof of performance. LOL
And please change the disc, we've had enough of your head chocking and lambda 1.
Ummmmm your friend who had the Passat or whatever. You went on about it for a long time
http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=467364&page=2
Think you said Eric tuned it.
Then you said to me he was over optimistic dyno and gave you a bad tune.
That's after you tried to get me to let him remote tune my car...apparently it was tuners fault i had no more air flow
This is why we don't help you, we give you valid info and you laugh at it, call us liars, bad tuners etc,
Your build is very good and you know from speaking on FB i hope you get to completion with it . And maybe meet somewhere for a european drag day or track event.
But one day you say you hate romania dyno or your local tuners next day you are saying how good they are
That is what i do not understand.
Macradiators.com
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I was talking about one, imagine how many there are in Ro lol.
That passat has R90 CP4 pump.
There is racelogic, a way to measure performance and compare result around the world. Borrow one.
That passat has R90 CP4 pump.
There is racelogic, a way to measure performance and compare result around the world. Borrow one.
Bobby Singh
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Mac I don't understand what you trying to say. Obviously this 505hp comment is directed towards me.Dont know who's got 303 on stock pump , they have a pump bigger than your 505hp one lol
About the hp..no comment.
Who is talking about dio? There are actually better tuners here
And yet that tuner did 12.0 and 11.8 on 402m.
Dont piss against the wind, you might get the taste of it.
I repeat myself, LOL as much as you want, but give us something else than optimistic dyno runs and sh:t.
And please no youtube videos as proof of performance. LOL
And please change the disc, we've had enough of your head chocking and lambda 1.
Are you suggesting you know of a Audi 3.0 TDI that does 100 to 200 in 7.5seconds?
If so that very fast. One thing I would say Tipronic (6hp) might be a bombproof but its not the fastest gearbox box for gear changes so it would make sense for a manual to be quicker. If you have a 1:1 car ie with tip box that would be a fair comparison.