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Old October 12th, 2018, 23:33   #16
Wildrabbit79
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Default Phase 2 disappointing to say the least

Just had Phase 2 completed.
Phase 1 got rid of long hesitation on initial take off. There was no loss of power. Other than running a little rougher, with less fuel mileage and more DEF I could live with this fix. The car was fun to drive.
However after Phase 2, the changes were somewhat of a nuisance. Engine noise and vehicle shaking, immediately noticed.
Just letting off the brake at close to 900RM, the engine revs up and the car launches in whatever gear, forward or reverse. Then continues to roll at about 1150RPM.

The initial throttle response is worse than before the Phase 1 fix. The engine hesitates too long, then roars with super power, launching the vehicle. Easy to loose traction spinning on wet roads. Unpredictable.
The phase 2 also has week push to pass. The hesitation continues at any speed.
Stepping on the throttle to pass, the hesitation is again problematic/hesitation. The transmission seems to be impaired and going through a manual to find out what to do. Then the vehicle is week, to pass. Nothing like Phase 1 at all. A completely different vehicle to drive, then what it drove like the day before.

VW quoted in the settlement that Phase 2 updates are expected to have no further impact on overall vehicle reliability, durability, fuel economy, engine sound, performance or driveability. Not true in my case. That may be another legal matter.
I dislike the entire Phase 2 update. Performance, driveability and sound have all changed in a negative manner.
The dealer concurs with all my observations. The dealer stands firm that they have done everything properly and I will have to wait and see if VW comes up with a new software update that will correct the problems that they cannot do anything about.
I have to wait! This whole situation is the fundmental, trial and error.

2015 Sportwagen TDi CRUA
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Old October 13th, 2018, 06:47   #17
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Damn. That's tough to read considering I've booked phase 2 for the 23rd.

I can't imagine VW will provide another fix down the road.

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Old October 13th, 2018, 19:24   #18
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Default paddle shifters

Even if you didn't get the paddle shifters, you can use the tip mode on the console shifter. Either way, you can easily override unwanted early (the usual complaint) shifts by DSG in standard drive mode.

I prefer a clutch, but none were available when I got my Stage I fixed new 2015. The paddles are nice, but I switch between left position for start up and then push to the right and control shifter after it gets into third gear (essentially EVERY time). early shifts don't have too much effect at lower speeds, but once in 3rd gear, it ALWAYS shifts to 4th way too early if I do not push the shifter to the right and take over.

This strategy gets me BETTER mileage because those lower rpm shifts might reduce NOx, but lugging the engine like that with early fuel injection timing REALLY kills the better FE we should get.

This strategy of letting the DSG computer shift to 2nd, then to 3rd most of the time then taking control before it shifts to 4th gets me better mileage. I can get up to speed more easily up between 1800-2200 rpm and the FE doesn't drop any worse (maybe not as bad in fact under most conditions) as the early shifting in full DSG computer shift control.

I am glad to have tip mode. The paddle shifters make it even better. I seem to get better mileage ALL of the time by keeping the rpms up higher than the DSG computer would allow!
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