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Dieselgate - VW Group Emission Scandal Discussion around the VW Dieselgate Emissions scandal. Details and news updates can be viewed here: http://forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=448336 This forum is a work in progress depending on requirements, usage, etc.

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Old August 5th, 2017, 18:58   #901
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It was meant as a term of endearment. This is a fringe forum full of gearheads. The world will never understand
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Old August 6th, 2017, 03:46   #902
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I was told by the Late great Chris Farnham before I purchased my2015 Jetta SEL TDI that only 2-3% of TDI's were sold with a stick shift....
All due respect to the late, great Chris, but that's flat out wrong. 2-3% of SELs, maybe, but not TDIs as a whole. I've had several dealers tell me that TDIs were sold with the highest percentage of manuals of any VW model, except the GTI. My local dealer told me he always ordered about 20% manuals, and couldn't keep them in stock.

VW enthusiasts buy manuals for serveral reasons: they like them, as mentioned above; and VW's automatics have traditionally been inferior to their manuals. The current DSG is a much better transmission than the reviled 01M, but in the past all VW autos have had a shorter service life than manuals. And they require maintenance that manuals don't. That last item is no big deal in my opinion but then again, I don't own one.

I was driving my 335d yeseterday and couldn't help but think how much nicer that car would be with a manual, even in Boston traffic. If you like a car with three pedals, there's no substitute.
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Old August 6th, 2017, 04:21   #903
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All due respect to the late, great Chris, but that's flat out wrong. 2-3% of SELs, maybe, but not TDIs as a whole. I've had several dealers tell me that TDIs were sold with the highest percentage of manuals of any VW model, except the GTI. My local dealer told me he always ordered about 20% manuals, and couldn't keep them in stock.

VW enthusiasts buy manuals for serveral reasons: they like them, as mentioned above; and VW's automatics have traditionally been inferior to their manuals. The current DSG is a much better transmission than the reviled 01M, but in the past all VW autos have had a shorter service life than manuals. And they require maintenance that manuals don't. That last item is no big deal in my opinion but then again, I don't own one.

I was driving my 335d yeseterday and couldn't help but think how much nicer that car would be with a manual, even in Boston traffic. If you like a car with three pedals, there's no substitute.
Whatever.....Chris did the requests for TDI's....and the last couple of years there was a noticeable lack of TDI sticks.....
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Old August 13th, 2017, 06:26   #904
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The dsg is great as well but nothing beats a 6 speed!
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Old August 13th, 2017, 12:31   #905
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How many miles have people been getting on DSG if they change fluids regularly?
I like the DSG, because I can shift if I want, or laze out and drive. I don't like the autoshift pattern in the lower gears
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Old August 13th, 2017, 12:47   #906
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I've heard of very few DSG failures. Flywheels wear out, but that's true of manual transmissions, too.

Shift patterns can be adjusted with a DSG tune.
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Old August 13th, 2017, 14:00   #907
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The DSG is "OK" - When we got the Golf, this was going to be the wife's car (I was going to keep driving my Beetle that has had the O1M to 5 speed manual conversion (among other things)). About a week after we got it, I had a suspected break near my left ankle and I couldn't drive the stick ( I can't drive a manual without the clutch - even if it is possible). We took the DSG because we wanted instant gratification rather than wait on a 6 speed Manual to come in.

I prefer to think of the DSG as an "Automatic shifting manual". The wife will just drive in D, but I usually put it in S ( pretty close to the way I drive my Beetle), unless I decide I want to rock the gears with the paddleshifters.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 09:13   #908
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Get a Malone DSG tune. You'll be happy.
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Old August 14th, 2017, 11:14   #909
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Get a Malone DSG tune. You'll be happy.
I'm not going to name the vendor (they are an authorized Malone affiliate), but they told me that a DSG tune isn't really necessary on the 2015s, even up through Stage 2 Malone tune. Has anyone else heard similar? Perhaps the clutch pack is a bit more robust or the factory TCU tune is improved?
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Old August 14th, 2017, 13:44   #910
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Necessary? No. Makes the car nicer to drive? Yes. Not sure how Malone identifies what's necessary. I recently had a conversation about this with Jeff at Rocketchip as a colleague here had his DSG tuned (along with the engine) on his '15. The owner reports the car drives far better. And Jeff tells me the tune keeps the car from shifting from 1st to second at low revs, and also keeps it out of 6th below 50 MPH or so. Both annoying features of the DSG, whether the engine is tuned or not.
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Yeah, I reflexively tap the shifter to S mode whenever I accelerate to cruising speed. Solves that silliness.
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Dealer said last night that approval has been given to sell Buy Backs other than 2015s. He wondered how many might be available as there were rumors that once they left VW lots, nasty, disabling things may have been done to them.
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Dealer said last night that approval has been given to sell Buy Backs other than 2015s. He wondered how many might be available as there were rumors that once they left VW lots, nasty, disabling things may have been done to them.



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Dealer said last night that approval has been given to sell Buy Backs other than 2015s.
I seriously doubt this. May be wishful thinking on his part. I've seen nothing to indicate that Gen 1 or 2 bought back cars can be repaired and sold.
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I seriously doubt this. May be wishful thinking on his part. I've seen nothing to indicate that Gen 1 or 2 bought back cars can be repaired and sold.
I questioned if older cars had the right stuff also.. Did they have DPF? But even then, he thought there was a plan. His info has been pretty reliable all along. Who knows.
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