Loss of Power/No Turbo (limp mode)

lukewarm12

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Loss of Power/No Turbo (limp mode) Please Help

My 2001 Jetta TDI lost it's turbo power which has happened to me before but last time it was the turbo actuator and when I replaced it everything was good. This time around I'm not so sure.

I had my car sitting in my driveway for about a week in fair weather conditions. The next time I drove it, I immediately noticed a loss of power that was similar to when my turbo wasn't working properly.

At first it wasn't throwing any codes, but after a few days the CEL finally came on. The codes are P0102 (Mass or Volume Air Flow A Circuit Low Input) and P1556 (Charge Pressure Negative Deviation). The first thing I did was take a part my MAF and clean it using MAF cleaner and replaced the air filter. This didn't do the trick, so I bought a new Bosch MAF off Amazon and put that in. Still nothing, so I figure my MAF is good.

Next, I went through all my vacuum lines and replaced them one by one making sure there could be no way I was loosing vacuum, but after replacing them I still had no turbo. I read around online and understood the N75 and N18 could be swapped to test if I have bad N75. I swapped the two around and still had nothing to show for it. I ended up buying a new N75 valve anyways and swapped it in but still had no luck.

I cleaned my MAP sensor, which had some oil residue on it, but this didn't work either. To be safe, I bought a new MAP sensor and replaced it but still had no luck.

To rule out that my turbo is bad, I took the vacuum line off of the EGR valve and hooked it to the lone stem on the right side of the N75 which gave me my turbo back. However, I read that this can cause over boost so I switched it back to the stock setup. I'd really like to have it work as intended.

I'm at the point where I have no idea what else it could be. I've read some articles about the brake booster having issues with losing vacuum but wouldn't I have noticed a change in the feel of braking?
 
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Nevada_TDI

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I believe most here will agree you need to run logs in VCDS, so we can be of more help to you. Check fuse #34 by pulling it out, not just looking at it in the fuse block. I would also pull the MAF plug, turn on the key and check the voltage at the plug to see if there is a wiring issue at your MAF.
 

Vince Waldon

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My suggestion: find the "diagnosing limp mode" thread linked to in member Canadian Grizzlie's signature and follow it step-by-step... if you don't use science to track this down you'll run the risk of throwing $$$$ and parts at it for a long time. :)
 

lukewarm12

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I believe most here will agree you need to run logs in VCDS, so we can be of more help to you. Check fuse #34 by pulling it out, not just looking at it in the fuse block. I would also pull the MAF plug, turn on the key and check the voltage at the plug to see if there is a wiring issue at your MAF.

I pulled Fuse 34 out and it's fine. I forgot to mention that I have already tested the plugs running up to MAP and MAF using my multimeter to ensure there was voltage to the sensors.

Unfortunately I do not have or know someone with a VCDS.
 
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RStevenson

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I had almost the same problem and it was because the connectors at the intercooler were sloppy and causing a boost leak
 

Nevada_TDI

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flee, thank you I know that it is PWM, but at a given frequency you will have readable voltage; I should have said AC voltage, not DC voltage, IIRC.
 

KrashDH

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No one has suggested it yet...whats your vacuum pump doing? Hook directly to a MightyVac or similar and see what your pump health is...
 

flee

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flee, thank you I know that it is PWM, but at a given frequency you will have readable voltage; I should have said AC voltage, not DC voltage, IIRC.
You're right that a voltage will be readable but it will read differently on different VOMs.
 

lukewarm12

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I have previously checked the voltages on the MAP, MAF and N75 to ensure they were actually receiving some type of electrical signal. Is there a certain value I should be looking for regarding the cable going to the N75?

I will also check the connectors on the intercooler.

I know my vacuum pump is producing vacuum but I'm not sure how strong. When I check the vacuum of it, should I hook the gauge straight up to the pump or should I Tee it in somewhere near it? What value should I be looking for?
 
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flee

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Where are you in Canadian Grizzly's limp mode sticky?
Maybe carefully inspect the brake booster hose if you haven't replaced that yet...
 

BobnOH

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May have missed it, you must have checked the turbo actuator. It should hold vacuum. It should just start to move at 3.5 to 5 "/Hg. When the engine is started it should move over.
 

lukewarm12

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Sorry I haven't updated this in a while. The problem ended up being the small black and white check valve. It was busted and was impossible to tell. I swapped it out and all is good. Thank you everyone for your help.
 
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