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Old February 2nd, 2012, 07:02   #1
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 09:05   #2
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Good article this morning on the TDI version of the latest Beetle:

http://editorial.autos.msn.com/blogs...8-b589d0f4b073
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 13:05   #3
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The article had a surprising level of detail on the CR Engine for an article like this. I good read even if you aren't a beetle fan. It looks like the New New Beetle will get the Jetta Sedan's gimped rear suspension:

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Beetle TDI models are fitted with a strut-type front suspension with a lower control arm and a 22-mm-diameter anti-roll bar. At the back, there’s a torsion beam arrangement that has coil springs and telescopic dampers

On a side note, when will people stop calling the old Beetles the "New Beetle"?
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Old February 3rd, 2012, 16:50   #4
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It looks like it will be the CJAA engine, not the CKRA as in the 2012 Passat. Some have suggested that the CKRA was released to address faults in the fuel system of the CBEA/CJAA, but I don't believe this was the case.

EDIT: Willy, the "New" part of the name of that old car was a bit unfortunate. We could call the current one new New Beetle or very New Beetle. It must be nice to own a "New" car for as long as one owns the car.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 16:02   #5
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The 2012 version is a BEETLE, not a New Beetle. The "New Beetle" is the Old Beetle, but not the Classic Beetle, which is more often referred to as an "Aircooled Beetle."
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Old February 4th, 2012, 19:34   #6
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Stealth, now my brain hurts!
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29 city and 39 hwy? Ugh! My 2001 Beetle gets 45 city and hwy. That sounds like a step backwards.
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My friends 2005 Corvette got 32 highway at 70mph. LOL Gas is cheaper than Diesel. I've been thinking about swapping my TDI for a Corvette. I just won't get a new new one. Maybe a 2006.
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Old February 4th, 2012, 21:00   #9
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Well, it's interesting that they keep adding TDIs with the CR system in the Jetta. Will be interesting to see if there's any significantly upgraded components or design in the fuel pump area.
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Well, it's interesting that they keep adding TDIs with the CR system in the Jetta. Will be interesting to see if there's any significantly upgraded components or design in the fuel pump area.
And the intercooler
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It looks like it will be the CJAA engine, not the CKRA as in the 2012 Passat. Some have suggested that the CKRA was released to address faults in the fuel system of the CBEA/CJAA, but I don't believe this was the case.
Keep in mind that the Beetle is a Golf chassis car (even the gimped and stretched Jetta is still PQ35 platform, just like the Mk5/6 Jetta/Rabbit and Golf), so there was likely less certification required to use the CJAA as-is in it, rather than adapt the CKRA to a non-AdBlue application.

Wait for the Mk7 Golf-based cars, to get something like the CKRA. (It'll be a different code, and an altogether different engine family, though.)
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Old February 6th, 2012, 10:44   #12
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Can't wait for pricing. Doesn't sound like VW is going to throw a lot of crap into it to help hide the true cost of the motor.
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Old February 6th, 2012, 11:51   #13
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Nice gauge pod!

The estimated fuel economy is disappointing. I wish they'd go with an emissions system similar to the Passat ... 50 mpg easy in something small like the Beetle.
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It's more than just the emissions system, though - it's the aerodynamics of the layout.

You want a cutesy clone of an old car, you get old car drag coefficients, and the corresponding awful fuel consumption.
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Just thinking that my 2000 "new" beetle was also rated slightly lower mpg than either the golf or jetta.
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