Dieselgate - Post Oct 18 Court Hearing

Let me open this thread by stating that this is a great resource for those of us who do not have the time or resources to follow the daily news on Dieselgate daily. While I appreciate the forum I know that many threads have gotten off topic and subsequently been closed by the moderator. I am starting this one in hope to gain traction as a new all-encompassing information source on the scandal/buy-back to provide a queriable information source to search through when I and others have time. Since the other threads have been closed I have been out of touch with the news; although perhaps there has not been a lot until Tuesday the 18th of October. If there is another thread that provides this purpose I have not found it.

A suggestion for the moderator...please do not close a thread just because a few people don't follow the rules; this is an important resource for many of us and it provides substantial value for sharing the dieselgate knowledge. Thank you, Jonathan

don't worry, tomorrow there will be at least 10 new threads reporting the exact same news

Freeze Plug said:

don't worry, tomorrow there will be at least 10 new threads reporting the exact same news

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It's true. Resistance is futile.

Freeze Plug said:

don't worry, tomorrow there will be at least 10 new threads reporting the exact same news

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And every one will open with a disclaimer that the OP searched the site extensively and found nothing on this topic.

Freeze Plug said:

don't worry, tomorrow there will be at least 10 new threads reporting the exact same news

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How many of them will be by that one person that has a new one everyday.

only all of them

Perhaps one or two of the new threads will even contain some accurate information.

I'd sure hate to see the moderators close this valuable thread (not).

HBarlow said:

Perhaps one or two of the new threads will even contain some accurate information.

I'd sure hate to see the moderators close this valuable thread (not).

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Sir
I salute your wisdom...
The minority of information was official, the majority speculation
Many,in the many threads are desperate for official information, which can only be found in the court settlement web site. The rest is speculative rumors, hopefully Oct 18 cements the resolution process.

VW have apparently committed to providing a fix for gen3 (the technology designed to meet tighter standards of 2017 onwards.

Sadly, I see abandonment of the obsolete gen1 and gen2 technology (those were the majority of the 450000+) VW's on the road in North America.

In Canada, we really have NO idea where we stand as our overseeing body has not offered any information, what so ever.

It is my hope, Canadians won't be abandoned, after all we are breathing American air (North American Air)

Romeo Zulu

Yeah - I bet it'll be really hard to find anything around here tomorrow - sure glad this most informative thread got started.

My thread will be:

Why I should have kept my TDI

or

My new non TDI sucks

or

Can I get my TDI back

or

Why am I spending so much money in fuel now.

Wow these are really important threads. Maybe I'll do them all, and MOD's please do not lock them down. These are critical to the community that will be mourning the loss of our TDI's.

My thread will be "how quick can I get my TDi running again just so it can be demolished and get me free of the nightmare vehicle."

nozel said:

It is my hope, Canadians won't be abandoned, after all we are breathing American air (North American Air)

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It's your government that decided to not sue on it's own, and decided to wait and piggyback on the US court case.

Heard on the news this AM, VW does not have an approved fix for the court date today which apparently was required? News was saying this may force a buyback for all affected vehicles..

Just reporting what the AM news said..

Cincy_TDI said:

Heard on the news this AM, VW does not have an approved fix for the court date today which apparently was required? News was saying this may force a buyback for all affected vehicles..

Just reporting what the AM news said..

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...pproval-of-emissions-deal-without-fix-in-hand

I wonder if that will delay judgement. I don't think judge would just make a split second decision to REQUIRE a buyback...this could get interesting!

the settlement before the judge has never required a fix. the fix from VW has always been an option. So the fix being available or not has no bearing on the actual decision being made today.

Shouldn't a thread entitled "Post Oct 18 Court Hearing" wait until, you know, after the Oct 18 court hearing?

DanB36 said:

Shouldn't a thread entitled "Post Oct 18 Court Hearing" wait until, you know, after the Oct 18 court hearing?

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no no no.. this thread isn't about the hearing, it's a thread about discussions that will be had about the hearing.

Anyone have the time our Judge is expected to sign off today? Seems like last 2 times we had news shortly after lunch.

coolbreeze said:

Anyone have the time our Judge is expected to sign off today? Seems like last 2 times we had news shortly after lunch.

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It starts at 8AM Pacific time.

ericy said:

It starts at 8AM Pacific time.

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Thanks, so we should have news by 12 eastern. Excellent

Does anyone really expect much of a change? I don't. I think it will be approved as submitted.

As long as condition requirements don't change, I'm happy. Maybe toss me a couple thou more too!

Glad this thread got started and I sure hope the moderators won't shut it down.

The judge is expected to hear from VW owners today who feel the $10 Billion dollar preliminary plan announced in July is unfair.

Does anybody know whether or not today is the date when we may hear if EPA has approved VWs fix plan (if there is one) ?

Thanks

http://www.theolympian.com/news/business/article108888262.html

coolbreeze said:

Anyone have the time our Judge is expected to sign off today? Seems like last 2 times we had news shortly after lunch.

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Hearing testimony today from a couple dozen whiners @ 2 minutes each, plus various other formalities. Early afternoon PST.

Jimmy Coconuts said:

Hearing testimony today from a couple dozen whiners @ 2 minutes each, plus various other formalities. Early afternoon PST.

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I'm planning on checking out the transcripts on those. They should be good for some LOL's.

I wonder if the whiners are surprised by their 2 minute limit? They were probably expecting much longer to act out their pitiful stories and hand out crying towels.

Philpug said:

Does anyone really expect much of a change? I don't. I think it will be approved as submitted.

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I'm guessing the dealers will be added, but I'm also guessing the restitution amount for later purchasers will be defined. Otherwise, clarifications will be added while discrepancies will be removed and it'll be similar to the original in content at least.

Jeta Life said:

Glad this thread got started and I sure hope the moderators won't shut it down.

The judge is expected to hear from VW owners today who feel the $10 Billion dollar preliminary plan announced in July is unfair.

Does anybody know whether or not today is the date when we may hear if EPA has approved VWs fix plan (if there is one) ?

Thanks

http://www.theolympian.com/news/business/article108888262.html

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I know VW is supposed to submit their 3.0 fix to the EPA next Monday, but I haven't heard anything about the 2.0 fix.

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I wonder if the whiners are surprised by their 2 minute limit? They were probably expecting much longer to act out their pitiful stories and hand out crying towels.

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Maybe someone will flip out when they get the "your time is up" notification from the judge and have to be removed by a bailiff? That would be awesome.

Judges calendar is booked from now through Dec 2. I sure hope it gets resolved today!
http://12.130.78.145/CEO/cfd.aspx?7134

DanB36 said:

Shouldn't a thread entitled "Post Oct 18 Court Hearing" wait until, you know, after the Oct 18 court hearing?

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Every other thread (that I could find) about the hearing has been closed by the moderator. I figured that title would be a clue that this is for new information starting the day of the hearing.