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TDI Power Enhancements Discussions about increasing the power of your TDI engine. i.e. chips, injectors, powerboxes, clutches, etc. Handling, suspensions, wheels, type discussion should be put into the "Upgrades (non TDI Engine related)" forum. Non TDI vehicle related postings will be moved or removed. Please note the Performance Disclaimer.

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Old April 16th, 2009, 01:35   #76
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It is an upgrade, but a sintered disk is kind of "digital" in operation, only full open or full closed...if used with standard pressure plate and flywheel, you should prefer to take a organic disc.

And keep in mind, that your tranny has limited capability for torque!

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Thanks , yeah the tranny isn't all that great either. Unlike the 1.9 one ,imo.
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Old May 29th, 2009, 09:56   #77
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hello,
I have a 1.4tdi Lupo. I swappped a VNT17 turbo from a golf 130cp on my engine. I made all the necesary adjustments except one, i don't know how to wire the N75 valve. It will work if I plug the wire from the valve that controlled the wastegate on the old turbo? will the ecu recodnize it when I will make the remap?
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Old May 30th, 2009, 02:41   #78
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It should work if you take the "black box" from a vnt car, and plug it in yours, if you load the software with vnt setting (probaly based on audi 1.4tdi 90hp version) then you cazn check with actuator diagnosis to see if it works..

Please post your results as I'm really curious about the spool with the turbo..
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Old August 15th, 2009, 11:44   #79
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I've mounted the PD130 turbo at last. I remapped it, but there is a problem. The power is not as expected, the car is halt a second faster to 60 then before...I tried 4 different mapps but result was the same.
The car in the engine compartment is stock, unless the turbo.
What could it be the problem? I reckon the injector nozzles are too small and an upgrade with the PD130 injectors is necesary, but I'm not sure.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 03:32   #80
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does it smoke? do you have a boost gauge? how much boost are you running? does it spool well? did you also change the vacuum lines and the "black box"?

does the clutch slip?
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:09   #81
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No smoke, not even a little bit. I have a boost gauge, it reads about 1.4-1.5bar. I've changed them all, they work ok.

The clutch is pretty solid, it dosen't slip at all.
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:30   #82
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cuky you're that guy who came to me with a broken 131pd turbo?
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:36   #83
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Cuky, what else have you changed apart from the turbo? I'm also interested in a turbo swap on my PD75 Polo. Did you use the stock PD130 turbo/maniford and just cut the extra runner off? Got any pics?

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No smoke, not even a little bit. I have a boost gauge, it reads about 1.4-1.5bar. I've changed them all, they work ok.

The clutch is pretty solid, it dosen't slip at all.
if the stock clutch doesn't slip at 1.5 bar there's definatly something not going well, a new car with strong remap can slip the clutch without too much smoke

if if you have boost and no smoke and the power isn't there's it's not getting the fuel.. can you post some logs? channel 8 and 4 and 11
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Old August 16th, 2009, 05:58   #85
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Cuky, what else have you changed apart from the turbo? I'm also interested in a turbo swap on my PD75 Polo. Did you use the stock PD130 turbo/maniford and just cut the extra runner off? Got any pics?

Thanks,
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yes, i used the stock PD130 turbo, cut one runner and it bolted right up, The only problem is with the exhaust, the PD130 turbo has a diferent socket then the stock PD75 turbo (3 bolts instead of 4). So you have to make a custom downpipe.

Here's a link with same pictures, it's kanes project, I have no pictures of mine
http://www.a2-freun.de/forum/showthread.php?t=31555
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Thanks for that link Do you know what he did to make the 6 speed gearbox fit? ie. Flywheel/clutch/driveshaft combo used? Finally, did you swap over the black vacuum unit? How did you go about getting the VNT to work? Kind regards, Ash
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Old August 23rd, 2009, 02:40   #87
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if the stock clutch doesn't slip at 1.5 bar there's definatly something not going well, a new car with strong remap can slip the clutch without too much smoke

if if you have boost and no smoke and the power isn't there's it's not getting the fuel.. can you post some logs? channel 8 and 4 and 11
I made 2 logs, channel 4 and 8.

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Try to find smoke limiter map
It has almost stock fueling!
You can get a lot more fuel out of these injectors!
Bit of homework to do

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Hi there.

Can anyone attach the VCDS logs of blocks 001/004/008/011 of remaped 1.4 TDI AMF engine.

Thanks in advance.
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Old July 4th, 2010, 09:25   #90
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Hi there.

Can anyone attach the VCDS logs of blocks 001/004/008/011 of remaped 1.4 TDI AMF engine.

Thanks in advance.
Hi. I found some old logs, but not sure if I have that enginecode. They probably dont look perfect, but the engine runs pretty good, totaly smokefree even now with 30deg.C outside.

011:

torsdag,23,Oktober,2008,16:21:58
045 906 019 BH,,1.4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5209,

,Grupp A:,'011,,,,Grupp B:, Stoppat,,,,Grupp C:, Stoppat
,,Engine speed,Specified MAP,Actual MAP,D.cycle MAP v.,,,,,,,,,,
,TIDS-, 2800...3200rpm,1650-2200 mbar,1650-2200 mbar,40-95%,TIDS-,,,,,TIDS-,,,,
Markering,MÄRKE, /min, mbar, mbar, %,MÄRKE,,,,,MÄRKE,,,,
,0.35,1323,999.6,1050.6,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,0.72,1344,1387.2,1060.8,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,1.12,1344,1397.4,1101.6,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,1.51,1386,1417.8,1152.6,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,1.90,1407,1448.4,1193.4,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,2.30,1449,1479.0,1234.2,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,2.69,1491,1509.6,1275.0,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,3.08,1512,1550.4,1315.8,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,3.48,1554,1591.2,1346.4,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,3.88,1596,1642.2,1397.4,25.1,,,,,,,,,,
,4.27,1638,1683.0,1438.2,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,4.66,1680,1734.0,1479.0,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,5.06,1743,1785.0,1530.0,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,5.45,1785,1825.8,1591.2,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,5.84,1848,1887.0,1652.4,24.7,,,,,,,,,,
,6.24,1890,1958.4,1754.4,25.9,,,,,,,,,,
,6.63,1953,2019.6,1846.2,33.5,,,,,,,,,,
,7.03,2016,2091.0,1968.6,40.2,,,,,,,,,,
,7.42,2100,2131.8,2111.4,43.0,,,,,,,,,,
,7.81,2163,2172.6,2264.4,46.2,,,,,,,,,,
,8.20,2247,2213.4,2376.6,50.6,,,,,,,,,,
,8.59,2331,2254.2,2315.4,51.8,,,,,,,,,,
,8.98,2394,2284.8,2315.4,53.4,,,,,,,,,,
,9.37,2478,2295.0,2284.8,53.0,,,,,,,,,,
,9.74,2562,2295.0,2335.8,54.2,,,,,,,,,,
,10.13,2625,2295.0,2295.0,53.4,,,,,,,,,,
,10.51,2688,2295.0,2315.4,53.8,,,,,,,,,,
,10.90,2772,2295.0,2315.4,53.8,,,,,,,,,,
,11.28,2835,2295.0,2325.6,54.2,,,,,,,,,,
,11.67,2919,2295.0,2325.6,54.2,,,,,,,,,,
,12.05,2961,2295.0,2335.8,54.6,,,,,,,,,,
,12.43,3045,2295.0,2335.8,55.0,,,,,,,,,,
,12.81,3108,2284.8,2346.0,56.2,,,,,,,,,,
,13.19,3150,2284.8,2295.0,56.2,,,,,,,,,,
,13.56,3213,2274.6,2305.2,56.6,,,,,,,,,,
,13.94,3276,2274.6,2305.2,57.8,,,,,,,,,,
,14.32,3339,2264.4,2284.8,58.2,,,,,,,,,,
,14.69,3381,2264.4,2264.4,58.6,,,,,,,,,,
,15.07,3423,2254.2,2264.4,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,15.45,3486,2244.0,2254.2,59.4,,,,,,,,,,
,15.81,3528,2244.0,2254.2,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,16.19,3570,2233.8,2254.2,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,16.56,3612,2233.8,2244.0,60.6,,,,,,,,,,
,16.96,3654,2233.8,2254.2,61.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.36,3717,2223.6,2233.8,61.4,,,,,,,,,,
,17.75,3759,2223.6,2233.8,61.8,,,,,,,,,,
,18.15,3801,2223.6,2233.8,62.2,,,,,,,,,,
,18.54,3843,2203.2,2223.6,63.0,,,,,,,,,,
,18.93,3885,2182.8,2213.4,63.8,,,,,,,,,,
,19.32,3906,2152.2,2213.4,64.9,,,,,,,,,,
,19.72,3948,2131.8,2193.0,66.1,,,,,,,,,,
,20.11,3990,2101.2,2172.6,67.3,,,,,,,,,,
,20.51,4032,2070.6,2142.0,68.9,,,,,,,,,,
,20.90,4053,2070.6,2131.8,69.7,,,,,,,,,,
,21.28,4074,2070.6,2111.4,70.5,,,,,,,,,,
,21.67,4116,2070.6,2101.2,71.3,,,,,,,,,,
,22.07,4137,2070.6,2101.2,71.7,,,,,,,,,,
,22.47,4179,2070.6,2080.8,72.1,,,,,,,,,,
,22.87,4200,2070.6,2080.8,72.1,,,,,,,,,,
,23.27,4221,2070.6,2070.6,72.1,,,,,,,,,,
,23.66,4242,2070.6,2060.4,71.7,,,,,,,,,,
,24.05,4263,2070.6,2050.2,71.3,,,,,,,,,,
,24.44,4284,2070.6,2050.2,70.9,,,,,,,,,,
,24.82,4305,2070.6,2050.2,70.9,,,,,,,,,,
,25.21,4305,2070.6,2050.2,70.1,,,,,,,,,,
,25.59,4326,2070.6,2050.2,70.1,,,,,,,,,,
,25.98,4347,2070.6,2040.0,70.1,,,,,,,,,,
,26.36,4347,2070.6,2040.0,69.7,,,,,,,,,,
,26.74,4368,2070.6,2040.0,68.9,,,,,,,,,,
,27.12,4347,1611.6,2019.6,91.6,,,,,,,,,,
,27.51,4305,1224.0,1581.0,29.9,,,,,,,,,,
,27.89,4242,1224.0,1550.4,29.9,,,,,,,,,,
,28.27,4116,1224.0,1530.0,29.9,,,,,,,,,,

008:

torsdag,23,Oktober,2008,16:19:52
045 906 019 BH,,1.4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5209,

,Grupp A:,'008,,,,Grupp B:, Stoppat,,,,Grupp C:, Stoppat
,,RPM,Inspr.kvant.,Inspr.kvant.,Inspr.kvant.,,,,,, ,,,,
,TIDS-,,,,,TIDS-,,,,,TIDS-,,,,
Markering,MÄRKE, /min, mg/takt, mg/takt, mg/takt,MÄRKE,,,,,MÄRKE,,,,
,0.33,1365,42.5,37.3,32.4,,,,,,,,,,
,0.71,1386,45.0,38.4,33.2,,,,,,,,,,
,1.08,1428,70.0,39.8,33.8,,,,,,,,,,
,1.46,1470,70.0,40.6,34.6,,,,,,,,,,
,1.83,1491,70.0,41.7,35.4,,,,,,,,,,
,2.20,1533,70.0,42.8,36.2,,,,,,,,,,
,2.57,1575,70.0,43.9,36.8,,,,,,,,,,
,2.93,1617,70.0,45.0,37.6,,,,,,,,,,
,3.29,1659,70.0,46.1,38.2,,,,,,,,,,
,3.68,1701,70.0,47.2,39.0,,,,,,,,,,
,4.07,1743,70.0,48.6,40.6,,,,,,,,,,
,4.48,1806,70.0,50.0,42.5,,,,,,,,,,
,4.87,1848,70.0,50.8,45.0,,,,,,,,,,
,5.26,1911,70.0,51.9,47.5,,,,,,,,,,
,5.65,1974,70.0,53.0,50.0,,,,,,,,,,
,6.05,2037,70.0,53.8,52.2,,,,,,,,,,
,6.45,2121,70.0,54.4,55.5,,,,,,,,,,
,6.84,2184,70.0,54.6,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,7.23,2268,70.0,55.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,7.63,2352,70.0,56.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,8.03,2436,70.0,57.4,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,8.42,2520,70.0,57.9,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,8.81,2604,70.0,58.2,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,9.21,2667,70.0,58.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,9.60,2730,70.0,58.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,9.99,2814,70.0,58.7,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,10.39,2898,70.0,58.7,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,10.78,2982,70.0,58.7,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,11.16,3045,70.0,58.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,11.55,3108,70.0,58.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,11.94,3171,70.0,58.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,12.32,3255,69.7,57.9,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,12.71,3318,69.5,57.4,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,13.10,3360,69.2,56.8,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,13.48,3423,69.2,56.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,13.86,3465,68.9,56.3,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,14.24,3528,68.6,56.3,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,14.63,3591,68.6,56.0,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,15.01,3633,68.4,56.0,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,15.38,3675,68.1,55.5,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,15.77,3738,68.1,55.2,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,16.14,3780,67.8,54.9,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,16.51,3822,67.8,54.6,59.8,,,,,,,,,,
,16.88,3864,67.5,54.4,59.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.25,3906,67.5,54.1,58.5,,,,,,,,,,
,17.62,3948,67.3,53.8,57.9,,,,,,,,,,
,18.00,3990,67.3,53.5,57.1,,,,,,,,,,
,18.37,4011,67.0,53.5,55.7,,,,,,,,,,
,18.74,4032,67.0,53.0,54.4,,,,,,,,,,
,19.13,4074,67.0,52.4,53.5,,,,,,,,,,
,19.53,4116,66.7,51.6,53.3,,,,,,,,,,
,19.92,4137,66.7,51.1,53.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.31,4158,66.7,50.5,52.4,,,,,,,,,,
,20.70,4200,66.7,49.7,52.2,,,,,,,,,,
,21.08,4221,66.4,48.6,51.6,,,,,,,,,,
,21.47,4242,66.4,47.5,51.3,,,,,,,,,,
,21.87,4263,66.4,46.4,51.3,,,,,,,,,,
,22.27,4284,66.2,45.8,51.1,,,,,,,,,,
,22.67,4305,66.2,45.0,50.8,,,,,,,,,,
,23.06,4326,66.2,43.9,50.5,,,,,,,,,,
,23.46,4347,66.2,43.1,50.5,,,,,,,,,,
,23.86,4368,66.2,42.5,50.5,,,,,,,,,,
,24.26,4368,66.2,41.7,50.5,,,,,,,,,,
,24.66,4410,65.9,41.2,50.5,,,,,,,,,,
,25.05,4410,65.9,40.6,50.2,,,,,,,,,,
,25.45,4431,65.9,40.1,50.2,,,,,,,,,,
,25.84,4431,65.9,39.5,50.0,,,,,,,,,,
,26.23,4452,55.7,39.0,50.2,,,,,,,,,,
,26.62,4452,45.6,38.7,50.2,,,,,,,,,,
,27.01,4431,0.0,39.0,36.2,,,,,,,,,,
,27.39,4347,0.0,42.8,33.5,,,,,,,,,,
,27.78,4326,0.0,44.7,33.2,,,,,,,,,,

004:

torsdag,23,Oktober,2008,16:13:48
045 906 019 BH,,1.4l R3 EDC 0000SG 5209,

,Grupp A:,'004,,,,Grupp B:, Stoppat,,,,Grupp C:, Stoppat
,,Engine speed,Specified start,Specified period,Cold Start Valve,,,,,,,,,,
,TIDS-,,,4..7*CA,3-80%,TIDS-,,,,,TIDS-,,,,
Markering,MÄRKE, /min, °BTDC,°KW,°KW,MÄRKE,,,,,MÄRKE,,,,
,0.01,1281,9.3,7.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,0.40,1302,13.3,11.2,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,0.80,1323,13.9,11.2,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.19,1344,14.6,12.2,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.59,1365,14.6,12.2,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,1.98,1407,14.6,12.8,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.37,1428,14.6,12.8,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,2.76,1470,14.3,13.3,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.15,1491,14.3,13.8,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.55,1533,14.3,13.8,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,3.93,1554,14.3,14.3,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,4.32,1596,14.6,14.3,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,4.72,1638,15.2,14.8,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,5.10,1680,15.8,15.3,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,5.49,1722,16.1,15.8,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,5.88,1764,16.7,16.3,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,6.26,1806,16.7,17.3,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,6.63,1848,17.0,17.8,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,7.01,1911,17.4,18.9,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,7.39,1953,18.0,19.9,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,7.76,2016,18.0,20.9,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,8.14,2079,18.3,21.4,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,8.51,2142,18.3,22.4,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,8.89,2205,18.3,23.5,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,9.27,2268,18.6,24.0,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,9.64,2331,19.2,25.0,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,10.01,2415,19.5,26.0,-0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,10.38,2478,19.8,26.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,10.75,2541,20.1,26.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,11.12,2604,20.5,27.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,11.50,2667,21.1,27.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,11.88,2730,21.4,28.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,12.28,2793,21.7,28.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,12.67,2877,22.0,28.0,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,13.07,2940,22.3,28.6,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,13.47,3003,22.9,28.6,1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,13.84,3066,22.9,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,14.24,3129,23.3,28.6,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,14.64,3192,23.3,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,15.04,3234,23.6,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,15.43,3297,23.9,28.6,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,15.83,3339,24.2,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,16.23,3402,24.5,28.6,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,16.62,3444,25.1,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,17.02,3486,25.4,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.41,3528,25.7,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,17.78,3570,25.7,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,18.18,3612,26.0,29.1,1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,18.57,3675,26.0,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,18.96,3696,26.0,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,19.34,3738,26.3,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,19.73,3780,26.3,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,20.11,3822,26.3,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.51,3864,26.7,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,20.88,3885,26.7,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,21.26,3927,26.7,29.1,1.1,,,,,,,,,,
,21.66,3969,27.0,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,22.04,3990,27.0,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,22.41,4032,27.0,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,22.78,4074,27.0,29.1,0.5,,,,,,,,,,
,23.16,4095,27.0,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,23.54,4116,27.3,29.1,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,23.92,4137,27.3,28.6,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,24.30,4179,27.3,28.6,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,24.68,4200,27.3,28.6,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,25.06,4221,27.3,28.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,25.43,4242,27.0,28.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,25.80,4263,27.0,27.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,26.18,4284,27.0,27.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,26.56,4305,27.0,27.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,26.92,4305,27.0,27.0,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,27.31,4326,27.0,26.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,27.70,4347,27.0,26.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,28.09,4242,13.0,-1.5,0.0,,,,,,,,,,
,28.49,4284,13.0,-3.6,-1.1,,,,,,,,,,


That is all I found, hope it can help you.

//Theo
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