///// Cannon Ball run in a jetta tdi ?? ////

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No normal car would do well, much less tires. You need a special car designed to go fast with special equipment in excellent shape and a team.
 

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It's a fun pipe dream, but let's face it- that's all it is.
 

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Everyone says it can’t be done... until someone does it.


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Because it's like been thousands of attempts to break the old record.
Even the guy who just beat it said it was just luck. Thousands of uncontrollable things must go right. Weather from coast to coast, traffic, and the list goes on. He tried it for a few years and they all failed for the external issues out of his control.
And as far as cost goes. He said it was in the $120k ish range.
 

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No normal car would do well, much less tires. You need a special car designed to go fast with special equipment in excellent shape and a team.
A rsb installed today puts me 1 step closer! ;-0

My car is currently running ecopia tires good for mileage but I'm not sure what their speed rating is (plus running near max gvwr I'll have to look at their weight rating ...

As far as running a team yes he had a lot of Lookouts...
Being a delivery driver I wonder if there's a load that could be gotten (most likely at govt or medical in nature) that would allow one to have a "license to speed " (play off of James bond license to kill. ;-))...

I have seen buses with celebrities being escorted by police .... the police blocking intersections etc so the bus can run unencumbered .... granted not at over 100 mph but the devils in the details....

Just have to find an angle to get a country wide police escort or "pass" .... no lookouts required if the man is helping you...

Maybe a speed run to fundraise for the police!

New record .... no problem. Ha
 
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My car is currently running ecopia tires good for mileage but I'm not sure what their speed rating is (plus running near max gvwr I'll have to look at their weight rating ...
That's easy to find, it's printed on the tires right behind the size, under ECOPIA.
then lookup the load and speed rating (likely 91H, 1356 pounds per tire and 130MPH speed) however if they are S or T rated your top speed is 112 or 118.

Recommendation get a new all season performance tire, shortly before your run, to avoid issues with tire problems.
preferably Tires with A traction and A temperature ratings, (don't need them melting as you are driving at speed)
I ran a set of Potenza G009's on my Jetta, while they were not R-comp racing tires they did perform much better than standard all season tires, wet, dry and snowy. (any tires felt like driving on buttered bread after a day at the track on Race tires)
 

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I went from oceanside ca to Norfolk va in 34hours in a vw golf vr6. wasn't trying to set a record. it was just me and another car buddy bringing his golf home that set in ca for 4 years. we even had to use route 10 to avoid a snow storm in the mid west. the trick I guess you can say was we only stopped for fuel or to switch drivers but we for the most just kept driving. we did have a blowout in sc that took a while to fix. I say it can be done
 

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I went from oceanside ca to Norfolk va in 34hours in a vw golf vr6. wasn't trying to set a record. it was just me and another car buddy bringing his golf home that set in ca for 4 years. we even had to use route 10 to avoid a snow storm in the mid west. the trick I guess you can say was we only stopped for fuel or to switch drivers but we for the most just kept driving. we did have a blowout in sc that took a while to fix. I say it can be done
believable
i did salt lake city Utah to Frederick MD in 26ish hours. 2100~ miles, that WAS in a 2001 VW TDI jetta.
did 85 on cruise control. got a speeding ticket doing 86 on the ohio turnpike! thats a long story lol only filled up only had to fill up 3 times and that's the only time we had out of the car lol. you should look at the record again, it cant be done unless you do MANY things no one is willing to do. like you know, spend 100K and risk jail time and probably a HUGE rack of fines! and probably a revoke of the license to drive lol. yea.... yea it can be done, but, not in a VW, and definitely not for less than most peoples annual salary.
 
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I was looking at the truck this morning and thinking that would be a better vehicle for making the distance but not at that speed.

I could haul enough fuel to not have to stop and there's room for three or four in the cab. At 90 mph, I'd probably be sitting around 24 mpg. That would work out to about 120 gallons of fuel and about 900 pounds of payload. Add in about 800 pounds for drivers and food. It will work. It's that extra 13 mph that would be the hardest part. The fact that it's shaped like a brick would definiantely hurt the 24 mpg average.
 
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Go for it. You'd only have to average 102 MPH to beat the record.
Right?

Theres a reason people do it in very fast aerodynamic vehicles.

Average speeds plummet easily and without going way over 100 MPH, they aren't at all willing to come back up.
 

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Why does everyone who owns a truck think it's a good use for every application?
I swear it's like 2001 fast and the furious all over again.
It's like no one here has seen or read or watched any information as to how the record was beaten and how it's made. You probably will have better luck breaking the sound barrier in a home made jet than the cannonball.
 

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What truck is this?
My Ram 1500 ecodiesel. Highest I've hit was 27 mpg averaging about 65 mph. I typically sit around 25-26 at normal interstate speeds. Cutting weight on rims and tires, I could probably squeeze a few more drops out of the tank.
 

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I can't see your Ram able to hold 130mph, which IMO you'll need to be
able to do to have a chance. You need a high end GT machine.
 

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My Ram 1500 ecodiesel. Highest I've hit was 27 mpg averaging about 65 mph. I typically sit around 25-26 at normal interstate speeds. Cutting weight on rims and tires, I could probably squeeze a few more drops out of the tank.
Biggest Average MPH killer is not getting up to speed after a slow down. Most videos I have seen show speeds closer to 200 when not in traffic. (nothing beats blowing across Kansas at 2 in the morning at 140 MPH, unless you are faster)

My 1500 ED stock maxed out at 105 (computer shutdown) the big 4x4 is limited because of the dangers. while my coworker in his v6 Challenger can hit 130 and still be accelerating.

I still say 1/2 or 1/3 your fuel load, and speed fill tanks, with 2 fuel dumps is the way to go. 130 gallons of fuel in a ram, get the 32 gallon main, and a 35 gallon reserve bed tank, and you are good to go half way, have someone meet you in Central Missouri or Iowa and change depends and refill from a modified farm truck tank. (1-2 min to fill tanks would be slow, but ideal vs using station pumps for 10 min)
 

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Are you kidding? That ecodiesel engine has Maseratis bloodlines. :) It would probably only get ~10 mpg @ 130 mph though.
 

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I can't see your Ram able to hold 130mph, which IMO you'll need to be
able to do to have a chance. You need a high end GT machine.
I have no doubt that it wouldn't hold at 130. Just offering a slightly different option.
 

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Why does everyone who owns a truck think it's a good use for every application?
I swear it's like 2001 fast and the furious all over again.
It's like no one here has seen or read or watched any information as to how the record was beaten and how it's made. You probably will have better luck breaking the sound barrier in a home made jet than the cannonball.
I can't see your Ram able to hold 130mph, which IMO you'll need to be able to do to have a chance. You need a high end GT machine.
Maybe if ya'll read what they actually said, you'd see that they specifically said they couldn't do those types of speeds. They were mostly pointing out that their vehicle could do the distance without stopping for fuel, since the vehicle had the capability to carry enough fuel to make the trip.
 

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I don't see any point to trying to do the run on a single tank(s).
When and where you can you're going to have to make time,
and to my way of thinking, you need a vehicle that'll cruise at
150mph.

My $.02
 

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yea, well it took 36 hours to go 1621 miles.
Race number? this is cannon ball, coast to coast as fast as possible.
there are other races, how far you can go on one tank and so forth. and those races would put 84.1mpg to shame. we are talking 130mpg here. look it up.
my mk3 got in the high 70's at 65mph non stop 100% highway driving FLAT as you can get.
whats your point here. this thread is about how foolish an attempt at cannon ball is and how no one wants to admit it because race car
 

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yea, well it took 36 hours to go 1621 miles.
Race number? this is cannon ball, coast to coast as fast as possible.
there are other races, how far you can go on one tank and so forth. and those races would put 84.1mpg to shame. we are talking 130mpg here. look it up.
my mk3 got in the high 70's at 65mph non stop 100% highway driving FLAT as you can get.
whats your point here. this thread is about how foolish an attempt at cannon ball is and how no one wants to admit it because race car
I agree completely. This thread is what happens when you start with an Idea (my alh can somehow compete in a cannonball run) and then start changing rules (race number) to make you competitive.

End result: You still lose, and others may beat you at the rules you pick. :D
 

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yea, well it took 36 hours to go 1621 miles.
Race number? this is cannon ball, coast to coast as fast as possible.
there are other races, how far you can go on one tank and so forth. and those races would put 84.1mpg to shame. we are talking 130mpg here. look it up.
my mk3 got in the high 70's at 65mph non stop 100% highway driving FLAT as you can get.
whats your point here. this thread is about how foolish an attempt at cannon ball is and how no one wants to admit it because race car
My 2003 Jetta TDI got 54MPG and 52MPG averaging 75MPH across Kansas in October (at night) http://www.fuelly.com/car/volkswagen/jetta/2003/woofie2/15243 (see fillups 46-50) (#49 was mountain driving on Highway 550)
 

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You know that if you tape up all the seams on the car you get better milage right? One of the tricks I used going cross country. Also my tdi is not even close to stock. It's crazy though how good fuel economy you can get in a tdi. To be fair though. It would probably be better to go EV hybrid to get the furthest one one tank for the price. This thread got me back into checking in on all the hyper mileage compitions. Some really cool stuff in the last 5 years.
 

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Give it a couple of weeks and he can siphon his fuel for free from the big rigs the marauders leave on the side of the road. jk :eek:
 

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you know, this is actually the PERFECT time to do an attempt, roads and highways nearly world wide are little to NO traffic what so ever. if there was a time to try it and spend 20K to do it, its now, or you could just buy all the TP in your area like everyone else is, so p'd off about that right now!
lets try and not get too carried away with this topic though, only reason i bring it up is that its surprisingly relevant to this topic.
 
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