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Old November 10th, 2019, 17:44   #5086
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My next daily driver will be an EV, but that's still two or three years away.
You may be able to get a Fiat 500 with a Tesla powertrain at that point.
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Old November 10th, 2019, 21:17   #5087
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You may be able to get a Fiat 500 with a Tesla powertrain at that point.
I believe Fiat 500 is going the way of the DoDo this year for USA.
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Old November 11th, 2019, 04:07   #5088
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Canada isn't the USA and does sometimes get models that aren't certified for the USA (due to having support for both FMVSS and UNECE compliant vehicles in their safety equipment laws, and due to buying smaller vehicles typically).
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Old November 11th, 2019, 06:38   #5089
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Iíll take an American made car that I will be proud to own. And it wonít be a GM, Ford, or Fiat/Chrysler. America now has the standard. Tesla.
Until they outsource most of the parts production to China. They won't be able to resist the lure of labor at a fraction of the price.
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Old November 11th, 2019, 07:28   #5090
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Canada isn't the USA and does sometimes get models that aren't certified for the USA
Ah, yup, I missed that he is Canuckastani
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Old November 11th, 2019, 08:22   #5091
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Until they outsource most of the parts production to China. They won't be able to resist the lure of labor at a fraction of the price.
Interesting prediction. Itís still American, and still the best electric car company. Tesla is the first American car company I can and WILL stand behind. I donít mind paying more for something Iíll drive into the ground!
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Old November 11th, 2019, 09:25   #5092
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We're coming up on 45,000 trouble free* miles on our Model 3

*the AC compressor was replaced under warranty because it was getting noisy. It didn't fail completely and was still cooling well.

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Old November 11th, 2019, 17:52   #5093
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I just read this piece about a Ford pickup in Berlin getting hoisted away for ICE'ing (blocking)a supercharger. The police even tweeted a joke about how inefficient the truck is. They must be a rare sight in Germany. I would have loved to see the owners face when he came back to no truck.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-owne...rging-station/
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Old November 11th, 2019, 18:19   #5094
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I just read this piece about a Ford pickup in Berlin getting hoisted away for ICE'ing (blocking)a supercharger. The police even tweeted a joke about how inefficient the truck is. They must be a rare sight in Germany. I would have loved to see the owners face when he came back to no truck.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-owne...rging-station/
Looks like the Germans know how to handle an ICEr.
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Old November 13th, 2019, 17:42   #5095
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My next daily driver will be an EV, but that's still two or three years away. Out of what's on the market right now, Chevrolet Bolt, Kia Niro would meet my needs. Tesla too expensive and I want to see how they stand up over a few winters. Thin paint on an aluminum body (S, X) just results in scraped or worn spots, thin paint on a steel body (3, Y) could lead to them becoming rust-buckets. VW may have something interesting by then although supposedly the hatch (ID3) isn't coming to North America, and I'm not interested in a CUV unless it is a Bolt/Niro sized vehicle, i.e. a hatch masquerating as a CUV.
I share your sentiment. But, I really wish they'd come back with a powertrain like the Chevy volt had. Seriously the best of both worlds.

A small IC motor putting out ~30hp at pretty much constant rpm, tuned for good NVH, driving the rear wheels through a (simplified) CVT, and a (much smaller) battery to power an electric motor for the front wheels for acceleration would serve a lot of use cases. The small IC motor would provide all steady-state power with a slight excess to recharge the batteries (coupled through the road surface). The battery mass could be cut by 2/3 probably. Conceivably, if super capacitors get good enough, they could be used for instantaneous 'surge' power and further lighten/shrink the battery and/or extend its serviceable life through better power profiling.

The front/rear power sources could be flipped of course for more sporty applications of course. I just picked electric up front for it's inclement weather traction benefits.
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I share your sentiment. But, I really wish they'd come back with a powertrain like the Chevy volt had. Seriously the best of both worlds.

A small IC motor putting out ~30hp at pretty much constant rpm, tuned for good NVH, driving the rear wheels through a (simplified) CVT, and a (much smaller) battery to power an electric motor for the front wheels for acceleration would serve a lot of use cases. The small IC motor would provide all steady-state power with a slight excess to recharge the batteries (coupled through the road surface). The battery mass could be cut by 2/3 probably. Conceivably, if super capacitors get good enough, they could be used for instantaneous 'surge' power and further lighten/shrink the battery and/or extend its serviceable life through better power profiling.

The front/rear power sources could be flipped of course for more sporty applications of course. I just picked electric up front for it's inclement weather traction benefits.


I used to feel that way, in fact I thought that BMW I3 REX was ideal, after owning pure EV's for 4 years and about 100K I will say I was wrong, ditch all the complication, weight, maintenance, and wasted space for rarely used ICE and throw some more batteries in if needed/ rent/ an ICEonce or twice per year.
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Old November 14th, 2019, 06:49   #5097
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I used to feel that way, in fact I thought that BMW I3 REX was ideal, after owning pure EV's for 4 years and about 100K I will say I was wrong, ditch all the complication, weight, maintenance, and wasted space for rarely used ICE and throw some more batteries in if needed/ rent/ an ICEonce or twice per year.
I am waiting because Tesla bought and will use Maxwell battery technology, which will up range and shorten charge time.

I agree, rent an ICE if needed. But in a couple years, the number of chargers is set to more than double what there are today.
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I used to feel that way, in fact I thought that BMW I3 REX was ideal, after owning pure EV's for 4 years and about 100K I will say I was wrong, ditch all the complication, weight, maintenance, and wasted space for rarely used ICE and throw some more batteries in if needed/ rent/ an ICEonce or twice per year.
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Yes, I see you live in one of those tiny states the size of one of our counties. <obvious exaggeration, for effect. In reality, you're only half the size of AZ, but it still puts things into perspective.

Different perspective. We like to go to visit friends in Tucson (220 mile round trip) and sometimes tack errands onto the end. We also like to get our dental work done for 1/3 prices in Nogales, MX, 8 hours round trip. These trips are already long enough before you add charge times.

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Yes, I see you live in one of those tiny states the size of one of our counties. <obvious exaggeration, for effect. In reality, you're only half the size of AZ, but it still puts things into perspective.

Different perspective. We like to go to visit friends in Tucson (220 mile round trip) and sometimes tack errands onto the end. We also like to get our dental work done for 1/3 prices in Nogales, MX, 8 hours round trip. These trips are already long enough before you add charge times.
Thank goodness you drive a TDI. We TDI owners can wait things out until chargers are more frequent, and charge times get short enough to compete with filling liquids in our car! In 3-5 years.
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I used to feel that way, in fact I thought that BMW I3 REX was ideal, after owning pure EV's for 4 years and about 100K I will say I was wrong, ditch all the complication, weight, maintenance, and wasted space for rarely used ICE and throw some more batteries in if needed/ rent/ an ICEonce or twice per year.
From personal experience, I agree.
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