valve cover

WillUK

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Hi there. So i replace failing injector, which all went well really. Now i cant figure out my leaking valve cover. I've ordered aftermarket Elring, because VW doesnt sell seal on its own ! Applied Permatex black seal in 4 spots as per manual, torqued to 10nm, cleaned the surface as well and it still leaking ! Leak is at the back of the head. Its PD 1.9
 

Mongler98

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When you put the rtv gasket maker stuff in place, did you give it time before you torqued it down? Should be 20 minutes or so to let it set up.
 

WillUK

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I Followed Permatex instructions, torqued after 1hr, and allowed 24hrs before turning the engine on.


Elring seal doesn't look right, the way it sits in the groove. I think i will have to buy a new cover.


 
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Mongler98

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98 Jetta TDI AHU 1.9L (944 TDI swap in progress) I moved so now i got nothing but an AHU in a garage on a pallet.
if you do a search here you will find many threads about this problem and how to solve it, usually involves a new cover.
 
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Just make sure that the mating surface and cover are thoroughly cleaned. I have always had good luck with Toyota FIPG, I’m sure it’s coincidental. All the little pieces of old gasket must be removed. Don’t over tighten cover.
 

KrashDH

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This is a problem with all aftermarket covers.
My new one from ECS was leaking right off the bat.
I had to apply RTV all around the bottom of the gasket (small bread). No more leaks after that
 

WillUK

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not sure how the oil is getting on outter face of the gasket. Arrows in picture


 

STDOUBT

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What worked for me is the following:
Remove valve cover, remove black plastic baffle from within valve cover, set valve cover
seal-side down in a shallow pan of degreaser to soak for a few hours. The idea is to make the original gasket as squeaky clean as possible. After this treatment you may find it stands higher, and is more flexible. Almost like new. No RTV goo needed. Also make sure the head's mating surface is degreased-level clean. Also observe correct torque value for the hold down nuts: It's only 7 ftLbs or 9 Nm.
Of course, YMMV.
EDIT: when I said no RTV needed, I meant "all the way around" - I still do the rice grain sized at the 4 "corners"!
 
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KrashDH

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Results may vary....
Mine was brand new and I cleaned it as good as one could.
Still leaked. Which is why I applied rtv all the way around on the gasket side. Most of it will come of with the gasket next timing belt change. As well you can replace the gasket on aftermarket pans.
I got tired of pulling it and cleaning it and re seating it thinking that was the issue, with no good results.
Oh, and it was torqued to spec and appropriate x pattern
 

WillUK

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All i believe, mine is warped, not sealing properly. Probably will have to get a new one from VW.
 

Seatman

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On any PD I've dealt with if the valve cover is removed it always seeps after.
Personally I took the seal out of one of my previous PD cars, cleaned it all up, put a bit of sealant under the gasket, refitted it then a small smear on the face of the gasket. No more seepage.

I use red hylomar, oil resistant one.

It's a cheap easy repair and you only need the tiniest amount.
 

Genesis

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What worked for me is the following:
Remove valve cover, remove black plastic baffle from within valve cover, set valve cover
seal-side down in a shallow pan of degreaser to soak for a few hours. The idea is to make the original gasket as squeaky clean as possible. After this treatment you may find it stands higher, and is more flexible. Almost like new. No RTV goo needed. Also make sure the head's mating surface is degreased-level clean. Also observe correct torque value for the hold down nuts: It's only 7 ftLbs or 9 Nm.
Of course, YMMV.
EDIT: when I said no RTV needed, I meant "all the way around" - I still do the rice grain sized at the 4 "corners"!
What degreaser do you use for this?

I've chased this dragon for a while and am getting tired of it. One more try before I pony up for the $200+ valve cover replacement, since the darn gasket is built into it.....
 

STDOUBT

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What degreaser do you use for this?
I've chased this dragon for a while and am getting tired of it. One more try before I pony up for the $200+ valve cover replacement, since the darn gasket is built into it.....
Sorry I just now saw this:rolleyes:
This stuff is $1.00/32oz at Dollar Tree lol
It made my intake manifold shiny inside. I use it on the whole engine bay - soak and rinse. Great stuff and seemingly very mild (but effective). Supposedly a 'concentrate' but I use it straight.
 
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