I finally gave kerma tdi a call and had them set me up with some injectors to replace my stock ones. My car has 126K miles and is a manual. I wanted to do ones for a completely stock car as i may or may not upgrade anything else later down the line. Power and mileage, but more so mileage is my goal. I am getting the injector service with them as well. I went with the dlc 764 injectors. I am going to check/set the IQ and timing after install. I heard lots of good things about the dlc 520 and 1019 injectors as well but is anyone running the 764s on a stock tdi and how do you like them? I will post results later
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Seatman
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I did for ages and loved them, very nice power upgrade for an otherwise stock lump imo. The extra torque is what tickled me most lol
My IQ was around 4 and I stuck the pump timing up around the top line
My IQ was around 4 and I stuck the pump timing up around the top line
Seatman
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Could be but there's other factors I think hence the different names, maybe spray pattern or something.
I remember the PP764's give around 50ft/lbs and 25hp or so, certainly feels like it.
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DLC764 is just very slightly bigger than DLC1019. The PP764s were the larger ones.
Sttb
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I also had the dlc764 set up by kerma on a stock car. Set you iq around 5.5 or higher and timing at the green line. I only had smoke issues when iq was set below 5.5 as the lower the number the more fuel you get. Other than that the injectors are awesome. Way better than the sprint 520's I had before that.
Nevada_TDI
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Sticking in a 3 bar MAP sensor without having a re-rune can be be a bad idea; if you have a vnt-15 already tuned to say 18 PSI and put a 3 bar MAP sensor without changing anything else and you are asking to play turbo roulette.With 18 PSI being the safe maximum and adding 20 % more boost (3.6 PSI) is just asking for trouble.
But for the OP's current situation he probably could get away with adding a 3 bar MAP sensor and adding more air would certainly help to burn the additional fuel he now has.
But for the OP's current situation he probably could get away with adding a 3 bar MAP sensor and adding more air would certainly help to burn the additional fuel he now has.
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Then change barometric pressure (climb a mountain or something) for a bit and watch your turbo blow up.
Seatman
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On a stock car, nobody mentioned tuning lol. If you're getting tuning then yes, you need to inform your tuner but on a stock car it's a way to gain an extra couple of psi so you can run a bit more fuel.
The OP did say he may not upgrade anything else
Mind you I did run my vnt15 about 20 psi all day long for a good while, still in good condition, I keep it as a spare.
Im sending in the injectors in the next few days when i get the chance. To clear any confusion i am only doing the injectors for the time being and am going to install a boost and egt gauge. Later down the line i might upgrade and if i were to i would do vnt-17 or bigger, tune and Southbend clutch at the same time or something along those lines. After having tuned up my cummins, i dont really use the extra power enough to where it should have been a priority. I dont regret it though. I feel like its easy to go all out on upgrades and best to either spare no expenses and set records if funds provide or just do what you could use.
Nevada_TDI
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I will adjust what I said earlier... due to the fact you do not have a tune and just did injectors--a 3 bar MAP sensor would probably be safe and only a $40.00 or so investment likely adding an additional 20 or so horsepower.
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So would going up mountains overboost the turbo as the previous poster mentioned? Wouldn't mind playing with that,
Seatman
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So would going up mountains overboost the turbo as the previous poster mentioned? Wouldn't mind playing with that,
I don't see why, stock boost is around 14-15psi, 3 bar adds a couple but that still leaves a couple for a safety margin.
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Nevermind, lol, getting a stage 1 tune as we speak.
Nevada_TDI
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If you went with bigger nozzles, why did you go with a Stage 1 tune?
Did I miss something?
Did I miss something?
I just put the injectors in today. Its runs great. It has a little bit more diesel knock and noise but runs smoother. The power definitely feels like the 25hp and 50tq advertised especially from around 2k rpms up and climbs to redline way easier. I have a vcds on the way so I'm not sure where it's set. I had barely a haze at WOT . About the same as stock. It was a great upgrade
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You talking to me?
Nevada_TDI
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Yes, I was talking to you... ^^^
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My wife's ALH got nozzles and a stage 2 last year, not happy with it so trying another tuner. My new 04 PD wagon didn't get nozzles because I don't have $1000 US kicking around so the stage 1 will do for now.
bxr.garage
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hello,
since i don't want firad nozzles,only big solution are v10 nozzles.Anyone put these see how far they go...my tuner got 260 from ARL nozzles,i wonder if i can go higher with those.
since i don't want firad nozzles,only big solution are v10 nozzles.Anyone put these see how far they go...my tuner got 260 from ARL nozzles,i wonder if i can go higher with those.