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VW MKVII-Mk7 Golf family including Golf Wagon (~ 2015 +) Discussions area for the Mk7 (2015+) Golf and Golf Wagon TDIs based on the MQB (Modularer Querbaukasten) platform.

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Old January 5th, 2018, 22:07   #16
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Oh, so it really WAS a stupid question! Sounds like CEL is generic for what VW calls MIL. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if it's illegal to sell the car here too (though we have no emissions inspections). I don't trust the dealer at all, which is good reason not to buy from them, though I think they're hurting themselves with such carelessness and if I can get a good enough deal. . . .
Your name is Orlando and you live in Dystopia? That doesn't help us to know what is a normal temp range for your location.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 08:07   #17
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Your name is Orlando and you live in Dystopia? That doesn't help us to know what is a normal temp range for your location.
Ha! It's FREEZING here (Columbus Ohio) and has been for two weeks. What could be more dystopian than the midwest?

After a month of following prices and test driving, I decided not to buy one of the 2015s. Two GSWs with the SEL trim dropped under $18K (!) here (and two others dropped to ca. $19K), but the both had an MIL with emissions-related problems. (I confess I was going to buy one of them anyway if it came down another $500, but it sold first.) Now none are for sale in central Ohio for under $20K.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 09:02   #18
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I expect a large majority of VWs with ad blue systems fail in the heater dpt. It is a know problem. My TREG tdi ad blue heater failed at 35K miles,replaced by VW under good will. Light just came on for a few days at 55k miles. I may be going back for another replacement. No big deal as long as they pay for it. I do have a 100m 10yr extended warranty which has been very handy.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 09:35   #19
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Where is the heater, how easy to change, and how expensive?
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Old January 6th, 2018, 12:46   #20
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Ha! It's FREEZING here (Columbus Ohio) and has been for two weeks. What could be more dystopian than the midwest?

After a month of following prices and test driving, I decided not to buy one of the 2015s. Two GSWs with the SEL trim dropped under $18K (!) here (and two others dropped to ca. $19K), but the both had an MIL with emissions-related problems. (I confess I was going to buy one of them anyway if it came down another $500, but it sold first.) Now none are for sale in central Ohio for under $20K.
I grew up in Waverly. Yeah, I know the freaking out every time there is 2" of snow.

FWIW, I have a 2015 that I bought in September and have been driving here in Anchorage since then. Yes, I have a garage, but it's parked at work in sub freezing temps all day and I have had no problems.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 14:41   #21
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Where is the heater, how easy to change, and how expensive?
It really does not matter where it is because it is a free fix under warranty for 11 years or 162k miles if you had the emissions fix done.
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Old January 6th, 2018, 20:25   #22
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It matters for my own curiosity, and to learn more about these increasingly complicated cars.
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Old January 7th, 2018, 07:20   #23
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If you have the ability to reset the code, do it. My '14 Passat SEL def heater threw the code a few thousand miles ago (135k now). I researched the least costly replacement (T-Reg part with harness mod) and decided to try resetting first. After two or three resets a couple of days apart no more code or dash light. We are in the middle of some of the coldest weather in years, single digit nights and teens by day. Indicated -4F on my commute last week.

Hope I haven't jinxed myself!!
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So the car threw the code again, just before we got the fix. I cleared it (since it was technically out of warranty at the time) and the dealer did the fix without any issues. It's now thrown the code post-fix and goes in tomorrow for repair. We'll see if they replace the AdBlue tank again, or check for loose connections. It seems that the code only show up in cold weather (which would make sense, since that's when it needs the heater.)
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Old February 13th, 2018, 06:42   #25
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Where is the heater, how easy to change, and how expensive?
I think dealers charge around a +grand, parts are around 3-400, I believe the tank/heater/sensor/pump is located in the right rear wheel well area.
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So the car threw the code again, just before we got the fix...We'll see if they replace the AdBlue tank again, or check for loose connections.
And the dealer says the Heater isn't covered by the extended emissions warranty. On hold with VW cusotmer careless now.

Edit: VW confirms that the AdBlue heater is not part of "The entire exhaust after treatment system." They are going to talk to the dealer and see what can be worked out.
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Is the ad blue heater covered under the extended emissions system warranty? The one offered by the "fix"?
Apparently not
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Have you tried disputing it with them? All disputes are supposed to be resolved in favor of the owner. I would contact the Class attorneys and get them on it, maybe.
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Have you tried disputing it with them? All disputes are supposed to be resolved in favor of the owner. I would contact the Class attorneys and get them on it, maybe.
Not yet, I need to see what they come back with. But yes, I do plan to dispute of necessary. I just need to have all the relevant documents ready to quote to them.
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wow NOx related emissions components isn't covered by the EPA approved fix related warranty, that's a good one!!!!

If they are replacing heater cores under the extended warranties, yet not the any part of the DEF system that's just ripe.

Best of luck and report back the outcome.
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