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Old January 28th, 2018, 23:33   #1261
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Arrow Maryland Proposal Would Boost Beltway, I-270 Speed Limits to 70 Mph

Maryland Proposal Would Boost Beltway, I-270 Speed Limits to 70 Mph.....


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A Maryland state senator is making a push to have the speed limit increased from 55 mph to 70 mph on I-495 and I-270. Tracee Wilkins reports. (Published Friday, Jan. 19, 2018)

If you've ever driven the speed limit on the Capital Beltway or Interstate 270, you've likely watched a stream of cars speed past.

A Maryland state senator said it makes more sense for the law to catch up to the crowd rather than penalize drivers.

Maryland state Sen. Joanne Benson, of Prince George's County, introduced a bill on Thursday that would raise the speed limit on I-495 from 55 mph to 70 mph.

The bill would also increase the speed limit to 70 on I-270 and highways and interstates across the state.

"People will beep their horns, they flash their lights, they yell out the window, because they are saying you are slowing down the traffic," Benson said.

"When drivers use the beltway, they sense and they intuit that it should be higher than 55 mph, and they drive that," said John Townsend, spokesperson for AAA Mid-Atlantic.

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Townsend said the Capital Beltway was originally designed for 70 mph traffic.

"What really moved the issue was the energy crisis back in 1973, and the governor decided to lower the speed limit to 55 to conserve energy, ironically, and it's remained at 55 since then," he said.

Drivers have mixed reactions to the proposal for a 70 mph speed limit.
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"It's hard to have someone travel at that particular speed and maintain it. It's not practical to me," one man said.

"From 55 to 70, I don't think that's a great idea, just because it's a lot of road rage already," a woman said.

"Seventy miles is really not that fast," another woman said.
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Old January 28th, 2018, 23:41   #1262
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Arrow New Jersey Man Launches Petition To Raise Garden State Parkway Speed Limit to 75mph..

New 75 mph speed limit on Garden State Parkway? Senator's, petition say yes

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LAKEWOOD, N.J. (CBSNewYork) — Drivers want the green light raising the speed limit on how fast they can go on the Garden State Parkway.

As CBS2’s Meg Baker reported Thursday, an online petition calls for the speed limit to increase from 65 mph to 75 mph. But some lawmakers say, not so fast.

Twenty years ago, the state bumped up the speed limit on parts of the Parkway from 55 mph to 65 mph.


Assemblyman Declan O’Scanlon, R-Monmouth, tried unsuccessfully in the past to raise the speed limit to 75, citing traffic studies that claimed there would be fewer lane changes and therefore fewer accidents.

But the movement never really picked up enough speed.

Now, Lakewood resident Mendel Rosenfeld is revisiting the idea, starting a petition on Change.org to bump up the speed limit by 10 mph.

But the reaction from drivers who talked to CBS2’s Meg Baker, WCBS 880’s Sean Adams, 1010 WINS’ John Montone was mixed.

“I’d keep it at 65, That’s more than enough because people are going to go faster than that,” one man said.

“Good idea, I say they’re already running 75,” another man said.

“Traffic now allows you to go 75 I don’t think it allows you go 85,” one woman said.

“They’re doing it anyway, I don’t think it really matters,” another woman said.

“I lived in Texas for a long time and that was a perfectly acceptable speed limit,” a woman, named Deborah, said.

“I’m doing the speed limit. They are all passing me like I’m standing still,” John Mix said at the Cheesequake rest stop.

“It seems like everybody’s doing 75 now anyway, so I probably wouldn’t have a qualm with it,” Joe Ferrara.

But AAA spokeswoman Cathleen Lewis said there would be more involved than just declaring a higher speed limit. It has to do with the engineering of the roadway, she said.

“How many twists and turns in road; what the terrain looks like,” Lewis said.

Much of the parkway is 65 mph, but there are portions where the speed limit is 55. An increase to 75 would be a big jump, and there are other factors to consider.

“How quickly people are going to have to maneuver – are the exits? Are there rest stops? Are there quick turns that people are going to get over for?”

Lewis said. Those all have to be part of the factors.”

Assemblyman O’Scanlon said he has been working on legislation to determine safe speeds.

“Traffic safety engineers will tell you that the best way to set speed limits is you measure free-flowing traffic set the speed limit at or below what 85 percent of people are driving.

You’ll get safest, the smoothest flow of traffic,” O’Scanlon said.

O’Scanlon said knows most drivers are going over 65 mph as it is.

According to AAA, 94 percent of crashes are based on human error – the faster you go, the more likely you are to be injured or have a fatal crash. When a heavy object is going fast, it creates more damage – that is just pure physics.

O’Scanlon further said the speed limit cannot be changed on the entire highway, because conditions vary widely from crowded Bergen County down to Pinelands.
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Old February 25th, 2018, 17:38   #1263
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I just wanted to give an example of speed limits changed willy-nilly.

Just to the east of Bend it gets very rural, so the state raised the speed limit to 65 about a half mile from the city limits. There were a few wrecks there so they moved the 65 MPH to about 10 miles out of town where it turns from very rural to uninhabited.

So last year a guy died about a mile past the city limits at a fairly busy intersection. So now they have moved the 55 MPH zone about two miles out.

So, this section that they changed to 65 has been lowered to 45 in about a year even though traffic hasn't increased very much if at all in that time.

They should have looked at realistic traffic before changing things.
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Old March 20th, 2018, 08:57   #1264
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is under way to push speed limits in Oklahoma to 80 miles an hour.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 12:37   #1265
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You guys are lucky in the USA, talk about raising the speed limits.
Where I live, way back in 1974 our speed limits were 70 Mph with the crappy cars of that era. In 1974 they changed to 100 Kph which is 60 Mph and it still is the same.
Then we have some idiots who want to lower the limit even more.
But then in Ontario to get a drivers licence is easy and some minorities have one guy doing the test for everyone else!
I drive the Austin,Tx bypass which is at 85 Mph.
Even in Mexico the toll roads are 110 Kph and some 120 Kph, 66 Mph and 72 Mph.
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Old March 21st, 2018, 13:41   #1266
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Even in Mexico the toll roads are 110 Kph and some 120 Kph, 68 Mph and 74 Mph.
There, I fixed it for you!

Actually it is 68.4 MPH and 74.6 MPH, respectively.
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Old March 22nd, 2018, 14:54   #1267
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I drive the Austin,Tx bypass which is at 85 Mph.
Just watch out for the pigs/hogs. They run across that portion of the road a lot.
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Old March 26th, 2018, 23:50   #1268
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Arrow The PQ Would Like to Increase the Speed Limit on Quebec Highways to 120 km/h......

there may be another chance to get a limit increase to 120km/hr in Quebec if the political parti Québécois is elected to office.....


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The Parti Québécois is committed to setting up a pilot project that would increase the speed limit from 100 to 120 km/h on certain highways, should it win the next elections and form a government.

The party previously tried to create a pilot project by proposing an amendment to the Quebec Highway Safety Code, but provincial transport minister André Fortin closed the door on that idea.

According to Fortin, increasing the speed limit on highways could increase the death toll on Quebec roads. He cited an American study in which every limit increase of 8 km/h increases the number of serious accidents by 8%.


The minister also recognized that allowing officers to apply tolerance as they see fit depending on weather or other road conditions is a good thing.
At a press conference last Wednesday, PQ MP Martin Ouellet said it’s time to put an end to the hypocrisy.

"Everybody in Quebec knows that when you drive on a highway, you will not be stopped driving a little above 100 km/h because there is a zone of tolerance applied by the police."

The PQ assures that it does not want to compromise road safety. They say their commitment to public safety is first and foremost.
Prior to the year 1978 when the SAAQ was founded, Quebec used to have 70 mph (113 km/h) speed limits. After the new 100-km/h limits were applied, road deaths declined sharply.

If such a pilot project is successful, the new limit (which might not even be 120 km/h) could be extended to all Quebec highways. A panel would be formed to determine the reasonable speed to establish.
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The Parti Québecois has about the chance of a snowball in hell of getting elected; 120 seems to be the "de facto" limit. It is rare now to see cars doing much faster. Maybe 125/130 tops.

I'd support it, if it came with photo radar everywhere to enforce it, though I'd prefer 110 for fuel efficiency. With trucks governed at 105 I now drive at 110 to keep out of their hair. Sometimes they do 103-104 and it got to be a PITA with the cruise at 105; at 100, they're passing me which I didn't care for. It would take forever and I'd be in their blind spot and spray; I goose it up to 120 to pass, then settle back down to 110 to cruise.
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What is the 85 percentile speed drivers are doing there? THAT is where the speed limit should be set. 110 kph is only a pokey 68 mph, 115 kph is only slightly better at 71 mph, but 120 kph is a more realistic 75 mph as that is what the most common 85 percentile seems to be. Of course the design/condition of the road has to be a factor.

Also what is best for freeways out in the western US & Canada would be higher than in the smaller states/provinces back east.
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What is the 85 percentile speed drivers are doing there? THAT is where the speed limit should be set. 110 kph is only a pokey 68 mph, 115 kph is only slightly better at 71 mph, but 120 kph is a more realistic 75 mph as that is what the most common 85 percentile seems to be. Of course the design/condition of the road has to be a factor.

Also what is best for freeways out in the western US & Canada would be higher than in the smaller states/provinces back east.
You do have to factor in the appalling state of our roads, even the autoroutes, except maybe for Autoroute 20 which is the Trans-Canada and gets money from the feds. The rest is crap, very short acceleration and deceleration lanes, poor road surface, potholes galore, and trucks governed to 105 km/h making for a fairly big speed differential. I don't see many drivers exceeding 120 these days. It used to be a free-for-all, and if you pulled out to pass at 120, in an instant someone doing 140-160 was on your butt flashing his lights. Things have calmed down since.

I think a 115 km/h limit, photo radar, and 5 km/h "grace" would be OK. At 120 the problem is that the speed differential between cars and trucks starts to get quite big. It's easy to get stuck behind a truck doing 90-105 (some trucks are governed to 90 by the operator), with traffic whizzing by at 120 it's sometimes hard to find a slot to pull out to pass.

On most of my journeys of about 100 km, the time difference between driving the autoroute portion of my typical trips at 100 or 120 is very minimal. Not even 20%, more like 3-5%; there is still a 20 km portion on two-lane with stop lights, and heavier traffic at the city end too. Plus you always bump up against a semi doing 105 trying to pass another doing 103; and then in summer, the construction zones. I find 110 a good compromise between fuel efficiency, and not being stuck between a couple of big honking semis. I do have to accelerate to 120 to pass most of the time, but 110 to 120 is quick.

Since I drive a 4MOTION GSW now, I do have to work at keeping the fuel bite a bit more reasonable.
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Sounds like Quebec roads are like California's!

Having different limits for trucks and cars is a large factor in accident causes. Either the limits should be the same for all, or cars should be restricted to isolated "car only" lanes so the "four wheelers" don't end up causing truck/car accidents due to speed differentials.
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LINCOLN, Neb. (AP) -- A bill that would allow higher speed limits on Nebraska state highways has won final approval in the Legislature, but it won't apply to Interstate 80.

Lawmakers passed the measure on a 44-1 vote Wednesday. They previously stripped out language that would have allowed speeds of up to 80 mph on portions of the interstate.

The current proposal would give the Nebraska Department of Transportation the option of increasing the speed limit on certain highways. For example, the speed limit for four-lane highways could go from 60 to 65 mph. Other expressways and freeways could see their limits increase to 70 mph, up from 65 mph.

The Department of Transportation would set the limits. Sen. John Murante, of Gretna, the bill's sponsor, says it would streamline Nebraska's roadways.

Not everyone thinks this is a good idea. The Insurance Institute of Highway

Safety says calls this move dangerous. AAA says an increase in speed means an increase in stopping distance. The traffic safety director says that distance can be the difference between life and death.
Opponents voiced traffic safety concerns. The bill now goes to Gov. Pete Ricketts, who has endorsed it.
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The posted limits should start to go up across Nebraska soon once the transportation zone commissions across the state approve sections of different roads & highways safe for the increases to 65 or 70mph.....

I hope the legislature again next year revisits raising I-80 to a posted 80mph across that long empty state.....

Kansas did exactly the same thing a few years ago, debated allowing 80mph on interstates only to settle on a new default maximum for all roads raising the posted across most of the state over the last couple of years from 60-65 to the now default maximum on all two-lane rural highways to 70mph posted today...

Colorado, please(are you watching?) raise the posted maximum to what is safely & comfortably allowed today(85mph on rural interstates & ~70-75 on the state's vast two-lane highway system)...
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Arrow NJ legislation requiring 85th percentile rule in setting freeway maximums

New Jersey legislature has had another effort put forward to requiring the 85th percentile rule be used when setting state freeway maximums....

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A New Jersey lawmaker has introduced legislation that would require speed limits on major highways to be set at the speed at which 85 percent of drivers are traveling.

Senator Declan O’Scanlon says an artificially low speed limit increases the difference in speeds between the vast majority of drivers and those who adhere to the posted limit.

“When you have a difference in speeds you dramatically increase the number of passing maneuvers, the things that really irritate people, that cause road rage or cause people to make a mistake, miss someone in a blind spot, and cause an accident.”

Steve Carrellas with the National Motorists Association agrees that the proposed change would foster a smoother and safer traffic flow and won’t cause most drivers to go even faster.

“It’s just going to change the number to reflect what people are doing. What we have found is anybody who today is going on the very high end tends to slow down because the traffic flow smooths out once you have everyone responding to an appropriately set legal limit.”

Carrellas and O’Scanlon say a more realistic speed limit would increase public respect for other traffic laws.
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