sk8rlee
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How'd this go from a tranny thread to an engine thread?
MrMopar, just out of curiousity, what kind of bike do you ride? Must be a 2-stroke, right, to not have to change the oil? I own 2 bikes, a 1979 Honda and a 2007 Suzuki, both have filters and require oil changes, both 4 strokes though so I guess that comes with the territory.
I'm with mxs on the whole motorcycle oil thing, I'd rather pay the premium for so called "special" motorcycle oil and know that it works than to go cheap and use "regular" oil to find out a few thousand miles later that it's ruined my tranny.
As for the manual vs auto tranny issue, I KNOW that I can't shift any faster than the DSG and I know that the 6M isn't any faster either but, as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to spirited driving it's not so much about driving fast, it's more about the actual driving experience and anyone who tells you that you can be just as connected or just as involved in the driving experience in an automatic (no matter what variety) as in a manual is lying to you right through their teeth. A couple of the morning radio guys here (some of you may have heard of them, Walton & Johnson) used to talk about the de-pussification of America and my opinion was that the first step should be to remove ALL automatics (again, any variety) from ALL sports cars, if you have no intentions of being 100% in control of the car you shouldn't be allowed to be in control of it at all, oh, and that goes for all the other electronic crap that come on them these days: traction control, launch control, etc., and that simply because sports cars are meant to be experienced and leaving all of these things up to a computer disconnects the driver that much more from the experience. Now, when it comes to regular cars I kind of feel the same, if you're going to be driving a "sporty" car and you want to drive it like a "sporty" car, get the manual. Don't get me wrong, automatics are fine.....if that's your style of driving and you don't intend to do the whole "boy racer" thing.
And as far as the weight of the clutch pedal.....in this car......what do we have here, a bunch of little girls? Ok, so that might be a little harsh seeing as I don't know what they feel like in the older TDIs but one of the reasons I decided on the 6M over the DSG was because the clutch is feather light. That was one of my concerns, the last manual tranny I had was a '91 300ZX. The clutch pedal in that car was so heavy that after about 20 minutes in stop & go traffic my left leg would be just about worn out, almost to a point of having to use the steering wheel for leverage. And the further down you pushed the pedal the heavier it got. This car, 2010 JSW, seems to have a "peak" in the travel of the pedal (which still isn't heavy) and once you get past that peak it lightens up again and holding the pedal to the floor can pretty much be taken care of by the weight of my foot. If it had been a heavy clutch I probably would've gotten the DSG because no, I will not be racing around the streets or tracks and no, I don't think its a fast car, I got the 6M in this car simply because I know how to drive a stick, the clutch pedal is light and it saved me $1100 dollars. I'm not saying that I won't take it out on a little joy ride every now and then but it wasn't bought to be a race car. I outgrew my Speed Racer phase some years ago and if I want to go fast I'll hop on either one of the previously mentioned motorcycles.
MrMopar, just out of curiousity, what kind of bike do you ride? Must be a 2-stroke, right, to not have to change the oil? I own 2 bikes, a 1979 Honda and a 2007 Suzuki, both have filters and require oil changes, both 4 strokes though so I guess that comes with the territory.
I'm with mxs on the whole motorcycle oil thing, I'd rather pay the premium for so called "special" motorcycle oil and know that it works than to go cheap and use "regular" oil to find out a few thousand miles later that it's ruined my tranny.
As for the manual vs auto tranny issue, I KNOW that I can't shift any faster than the DSG and I know that the 6M isn't any faster either but, as far as I'm concerned, when it comes to spirited driving it's not so much about driving fast, it's more about the actual driving experience and anyone who tells you that you can be just as connected or just as involved in the driving experience in an automatic (no matter what variety) as in a manual is lying to you right through their teeth. A couple of the morning radio guys here (some of you may have heard of them, Walton & Johnson) used to talk about the de-pussification of America and my opinion was that the first step should be to remove ALL automatics (again, any variety) from ALL sports cars, if you have no intentions of being 100% in control of the car you shouldn't be allowed to be in control of it at all, oh, and that goes for all the other electronic crap that come on them these days: traction control, launch control, etc., and that simply because sports cars are meant to be experienced and leaving all of these things up to a computer disconnects the driver that much more from the experience. Now, when it comes to regular cars I kind of feel the same, if you're going to be driving a "sporty" car and you want to drive it like a "sporty" car, get the manual. Don't get me wrong, automatics are fine.....if that's your style of driving and you don't intend to do the whole "boy racer" thing.
And as far as the weight of the clutch pedal.....in this car......what do we have here, a bunch of little girls? Ok, so that might be a little harsh seeing as I don't know what they feel like in the older TDIs but one of the reasons I decided on the 6M over the DSG was because the clutch is feather light. That was one of my concerns, the last manual tranny I had was a '91 300ZX. The clutch pedal in that car was so heavy that after about 20 minutes in stop & go traffic my left leg would be just about worn out, almost to a point of having to use the steering wheel for leverage. And the further down you pushed the pedal the heavier it got. This car, 2010 JSW, seems to have a "peak" in the travel of the pedal (which still isn't heavy) and once you get past that peak it lightens up again and holding the pedal to the floor can pretty much be taken care of by the weight of my foot. If it had been a heavy clutch I probably would've gotten the DSG because no, I will not be racing around the streets or tracks and no, I don't think its a fast car, I got the 6M in this car simply because I know how to drive a stick, the clutch pedal is light and it saved me $1100 dollars. I'm not saying that I won't take it out on a little joy ride every now and then but it wasn't bought to be a race car. I outgrew my Speed Racer phase some years ago and if I want to go fast I'll hop on either one of the previously mentioned motorcycles.
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