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Upgrades (non TDI Engine related) The place of handling, lighting and other upgrades that do not relate to the performance or economy of the TDI engine. In other words upgrades to your TDI that don't fit into TDI Fuel Economy & TDI Engine Enhancements.Please note the Performance Disclaimer

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Old January 26th, 2012, 21:13   #1
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I remember reading somewhere about a myth performance making a rwd kit to put the engine where the back seat is via a rear subframe. Anyone do this, or thinking about doing this?
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Old January 27th, 2012, 07:36   #2
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You're probably referring to the Smyth Performance G3F. It's not so much a "rwd kit" as it is a "kit car." You build a G3F using a Jetta donor car in the same fashion you build a Factory Five Cobra/GTM using a Mustang/Corvette donor car.

I wish I had a better link than a Facebook page for them, but here's the details: https://www.facebook.com/SmythPerformance
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Old January 27th, 2012, 13:21   #3
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Here is the full forum post about the G3F project.
http://www.ffcars.com/forums/139-smy...ark-smith.html
Bottom line, the Alpha car has been driven and is now apart getting production parts installed. There are 2 Beta cars being built by costumers that are waiting for parts to continue.
Readers Digest version: You start with a MKIV Jetta or Golf 4dr, cut it up, attach some frames, move engine to rear, attach body.. go drive.
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Readers Digest version: You start with a MKIV Jetta or Golf 4dr, cut it up, attach some frames, move engine to rear, attach body.. go drive.

Yeah...but why?
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Yeah...but why?
Because you can!
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Yeah...but why?
It will be lighter, quicker, better handling, more fun to drive, better fuel economy than the original Jetta/Golf. The thought is to take a car that is at the end of it's life, maybe has a bit of rust or has been banged up a bit and "recycle" it to something newer/better.
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I am not referring to the g3f. I think I read about using a new subframe in the rear and keep the original size and shape but moving the motor and transaxle to about where the vertical part of the rear seat is, making a mid engine rwd golf or jetta.
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AWESOME CAR that G3F! very impressive.
I like the idea of 'just' swapping the engine to rear in the original body
Handling improvements must be HUGE for sure. I'm so envious!
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I am not referring to the g3f. I think I read about using a new subframe in the rear and keep the original size and shape but moving the motor and transaxle to about where the vertical part of the rear seat is, making a mid engine rwd golf or jetta.
The only Smyth car available is the G3F, it does have a new sub-frame to put the engine in the rear. Smyth is also considering making a MKIV truck, but the engine stays in the front on that. Those are the only two vehicles that Smyth is making, or considering making, at the present time.
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Take a look of this project

http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...Race-car-build

with a TDI engine, that engine relocation should be GREAT.
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