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yea, my primary cat was clogged. As a result, the DPF was constantly in regen and you could feel the heat coming off the car when I'd park it.

If not for that warranty, it'd be so tempting to straight pipe the entire thing and put a tune in the ECU's brain that will keep you both singing for miles and miles.

tjg said:

yea, my primary cat was clogged. As a result, the DPF was constantly in regen and you could feel the heat coming off the car when I'd park it.

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Interesting... is there a noise or any other indicators that it’s in rejen?


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Interesting... is there a noise or any other indicators that it’s in rejen?


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yes, you can hear the fans running full speed when you park and the engine radiates heat

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Interesting... is there a noise or any other indicators that it’s in rejen?


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tjg said:

yes, you can hear the fans running full speed when you park and the engine radiates heat

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If you're in the hills you may feel power loss.

The Polar FIS informs on regens

forrest resto`s said:

You think this will effect a fuel test if checked at dealer? In other words..( "sorry no warranty.. your fuel is contaminated!")

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I asked a service writer @ VW yesterday just that. He said no issue... FWIW

IMO, there's a huge difference between what a service writer says and what VWoA says. And on top of that, if it's not in writing it didn't happen.

JELLOWSUBMARINE said:

I asked a service writer @ VW yesterday just that. He said no issue... FWIW

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andreigbs said:

IMO, there's a huge difference between what a service writer says and what VWoA says. And on top of that, if it's not in writing it didn't happen.

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You're right, hence my FWIW disclaimer. BUT most of the battle is getting past the service writer. A good service writer will work for the customer if and where possible.

JELLOWSUBMARINE said:

O.K. back from dealer with a smile. P13ce P13do, bad cylinder #1 glow plug. C.P.O. covered @ 0 cost. A little info. gathered that may help others with these cars.
1) Modifying with a tune. According to the tech. the 2011 ecm can not tell if you had a tune and went back to stock for warrenty work. According to him the 2011 isn't new enough to have a counter like the newer years. IF this is true/confirmed a non delete tune is, well... Any confirmation input?
2) Confirmed with service writer that the Polar F.I.S. isn't a warranty killer, as it has no bearing on the drivability etc. yahoo.
3) I asked while the tech was in the diag. if he could report the ash load. My DPF has ONLY 5k miles on it. I have been particularly interested in watching the numbers (soon w/polar FIS). Looking at them I need some help from experienced read of the ash load #'s & metric to miles conversion help. Here it is exactly as written on paperwork:

"Preformed test plan for ash load measurement and found the test load is currently 78 . 0ML and is still far below the maximum load of 200ML Test plan states after apx. 122000KM of driving will be necessary to replace the particulate filter."

Side note 200ML is lower than the 250ML max I've read about before???

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This is GREAT news if true...2011 jetta 6mt..70,000 miles...I got the kerma Q loader tune 2 (about 2 months ago) and the car runs so much better not to mention the mpg's went back up to original (43+ hwy was 38-39 before)..kinda concerned about no warranty..even flashed back to "fixed tune"..I guess well see..cause after only 3500 miles since last "new" dpf, the tail pipe is getting a little sooty ....AGAIN....will be 3rd since new..use scan gauge to monitor regens also.. Hope my dealer doesn't see this post!.thanx!

forrest resto`s said:

This is GREAT news if true...2011 jetta 6mt..70,000 miles...I got the kerma Q loader tune 2 (about 2 months ago) and the car runs so much better not to mention the mpg's went back up to original (43+ hwy was 38-39 before)..kinda concerned about no warranty..even flashed back to "fixed tune"..I guess well see..cause after only 3500 miles since last "new" dpf, the tail pipe is getting a little sooty ....AGAIN....will be 3rd since new..use scan gauge to monitor regens also.. .thanx!

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What scanner would you recommend?


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What scanner would you recommend?


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I use the scan gauge II ( bought it several years ago)..does the job..the polar fis is great/better!..but it says it will not work on my car (2011 jetta tdi sedan).weird though..it says WILL fit 2009 & 2010 jetta's...I hope this answers your question link to the polar.. https://kermatdi.com/i-852-polar-fi....html#!year=2011||make=VOLKSWAGEN||model=GOLF

I have been waiting since October for a DPF for my 2011 Golf that popped a code @ 86k miles. Then it developed a no-start condition which I am not sure if it's the battery or if I have water in the IC. Been parked since and have lost a lot of steam on this TDI.

Is it at your house or the dealer? It should be at the dealer so you can start a lemmon buyback claim. part of the fix agreement is that the car can't be out of commission for more than 30 days (IIRC).

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A warranty is no good to me if I have to wait 7-8 months for the part.

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In the last year I have put 27k miles on my JSW. Still running a Malone StageII w/Emissions tune. No issues, tailpipe still looks new. No soot. (knock on wood) Of course I am performing my own oil changes now and haven't been at the dealer since they fixed the pano drain tubes that flooded my floorboards.

IDK if y'all are city or hwy driving. Im driving approx 100 miles per day, 50 to work and 50 back at 55+ mph speeds. I imagine this hwy driving has contributed to my DPF, EGR, and CAT staying clean. I do notice my regen a couple times (fans, 1k idle speed, smell of raw diesel at a stop) mainly when I am parking. Sometimes I sit and let it finish, but most of the time I shut it off and don't worry about it. When I restart it after sitting the regen does not continue so I figure Im saving fuel by killing it.

I figure when the DPF cracks/clogs/messes up is when Ill install my Darkside delete and re-tune.

Lately I've been averaging 37.5mpg per tank. Not sure how or why it went up but sure liking it more everyday.

I have been getting the P2002 CEL to show up and turn off from my regular commute. Obviously the light is going to eventually stay illuminated, as my tail pipe is also getting sooty. At this point is the DPF still backordered that long? Does VW supply a loaner car during this time?



Jellow, how did you go about inquiring on the ECMs and the "cutoff dates" of when they weren't able to find modified tunes stored in them? Would the service write / tech have suspected you?

under the fix agreement, VW is supposed to give you a loaner (or cover the rental) if they ahve to keep your car more than 4 hours. If I get a cel pop up, it goes straight to the dealer. I'm not messing with anything as long as I still have that warranty.

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Jellow, how did you go about inquiring on the ECMs and the "cutoff dates" of when they weren't able to find modified tunes stored in them? Would the service write / tech have suspected you?

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It was just an "in passing" type question I asked a salesman while waiting repair and looking at the new cars. He asked a tech. Kerma later varified pre 2011 (I forget whenn exactly) that it does have an internal counter. And no the writer didnt suspect me spacifically, just what they do as policy

kjclow said:

under the fix agreement, VW is supposed to give you a loaner (or cover the rental) if they ahve to keep your car more than 4 hours. If I get a cel pop up, it goes straight to the dealer. I'm not messing with anything as long as I still have that warranty.

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Use it

Do you mean pre-2012, since your JSW is 2011?

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Do you mean pre-2012, since your JSW is 2011?

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forums.tdiclub.com/showthread.php?t=505360

That is a lot of good reading, and I'm glad it "only" applies to MQB. I had to read just a bit to make sure our JSWs weren't part of the MQB.

ttcheung said:

That is a lot of good reading, and I'm glad it "only" applies to MQB. I had to read just a bit to make sure our JSWs weren't part of the MQB.

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actually my take away is it covers since around the time the "immobilizer" was incorporated?

Which would be around the turn of the century?

kjclow said:

Which would be around the turn of the century?

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yeah I suppose. Somewhere in one of these post I beleive Kerma refered to the JSW as defiinately having a counter acessable thru VCDS.

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I have been getting the P2002 CEL to show up and turn off from my regular commute. Obviously the light is going to eventually stay illuminated, as my tail pipe is also getting sooty. At this point is the DPF still backordered that long? Does VW supply a loaner car during this time?

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I've had the P2002 CEL 3 times. I took it to the dealer each time and now they have me on the list for a new DPF. They didn't give me a loaner and just told me to drive it until the parts come in. According to the service writer it's currently a 4-6 week wait... we'll see.