Fuel additives
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Lightflyer1
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Plenty of posts already here on this subject. Please do a search first before asking a question as most of what you need to know has already been discussed, this subject many, many times already. You don't need to use any additives and they will do mostly nothing for you except empty your wallet and make things stink. Buy fuel from a high volume station and leave it at that.
Jetta_Pilot
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I will add my 0.02 worth.
As mentioned before there is no need for additives, the refineries add what's necessary.
But having said that, one product used by many here is "PowerService" which boosts cetane levels.
The white bottle is for winter use to prevent the fuel from gelling. Boosts 3 points.
The silver bottle is for summer use or where you do not have freezing temperatures. Boosts 6 points.
But I'll defy anyone to be able to tell the difference in cetane boosts, between none or PS boosts.
As mentioned before there is no need for additives, the refineries add what's necessary.
But having said that, one product used by many here is "PowerService" which boosts cetane levels.
The white bottle is for winter use to prevent the fuel from gelling. Boosts 3 points.
The silver bottle is for summer use or where you do not have freezing temperatures. Boosts 6 points.
But I'll defy anyone to be able to tell the difference in cetane boosts, between none or PS boosts.
Lightflyer1
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Not a problem and welcome to tdiclub. There are literally tons of posts here already on almost every additive out there. Should keep you reading for some time. But for the most part they are simply a waste of money. Some use them all the time because they choose to. Most never use them. They probably won't hurt anything but probably won't really help either to any great degree. What is important is to find somewhere that dispenses and turns over their fuel rapidly, and fuel there. In very extreme cold temps an additive may be helpful.
tikal
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After their own research some people carry diesel additives on road trips as in 'cheap insurance' dealing with potential unknown fuel stations and situations.
alecw81
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Devil's Advocate: I use LucasOil Fuel Treatment when I get the oil changed, and between the combination of new oil, rotated tires, and the Lucas, I do notice quite a bump in fuel economy (like 50miles per fill-up) for the first few tanks.
Lightflyer1
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You have documented this? Show me your spread sheet that shows the previous 5 tanks vs the post 5 tanks. Or is this just something you noticed in your head? Oil changes also include other things as well such as fuel filters and air filters and DSG services. Did you skip those? Typical for a car to do somewhat better when serviced. But is it the additive or the service that caused that?
I would be interested to see power service in TDIs affecting mpgs. I know when I had my cummins it did make a difference. I graphed it on paper at the time and the powerservice paid for itself and then some. Not sure it would make as much difference in an engine with 1/3 of the displacement that sips fuel though.
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tikal
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Another alternative to using diesel fuel additives in every fill up, is to use some of the following diesel treatment additives infrequently (once just before an oil change, every 10,000 miles or so):
BG 245 Premium Diesel Fuel System Cleaner
Liqui-Moly Super Diesel Additive
Archoil's high concentrate diesel fuel system cleaner AR6400-D
BG 245 Premium Diesel Fuel System Cleaner
Liqui-Moly Super Diesel Additive
Archoil's high concentrate diesel fuel system cleaner AR6400-D
Good resources man, thanks.
I can vouch for Power Service. Diesel by me is garbage (minimum quality and no one can even tell me what the cetane is). I can tell when I get inferior diesel, since my A6 sounds much more like a diesel and less refined. With Power Service, it has actually quieted up some, though I will say not as much as when I do get some good diesel in. There is also a noticeable response difference as well.
Rodinal220
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I use Power Service White and Silver.
tomo366
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I use Hot Shots Secret Extreme Diesel and EDT
n1das
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My favorites are Howes Lubricator Diesel Treat and PowerService Diesel Fuel Supplement (white bottle) and I use them year round with every tankful. My concerns for using an additive is to increase lubricity and take care of any water I can't avoid getting. Avoiding water is #1 priority, lubricity #2.
I do not use PowerService Diesel Kleen (silver bottle) because it doesn't do anything for water and doesn't have any anti-gel for extreme cold weather in case the fuel isn't winterized. The white bottle stuff is suitable for year round use. I care more about avoiding water than boosting cetane levels.
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johnsTDI
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hello im new here.
Hello.
and Yes its my 1st ever bought 2012 TDI Diesel ever owned.! So far im verry happy with it infact did the 1st Oil & Filter change on it today
using Castrol Edge Professional Synthetic 5w30 that meets my VW"s TDI 507 spec Oil requirements. also at VW bought the O.E.M Oil filter and some touch
Paint. over all costs i found were very reasonable for example: 5 Liters of Castrol 5w30 Professional Synthetic Oil $ 50.00 (9.99 a Liter)
Oil Filter Element $ 17.40 (partsguy thru in drain bolt washer free) - Touch-up Paint Kit comes with 1 paint pen & Laquer paint pen $22.00
Im glad i purchased these items from my Local VW near me because i found theme to be very reasonable at cost.
Hello.
and Yes its my 1st ever bought 2012 TDI Diesel ever owned.! So far im verry happy with it infact did the 1st Oil & Filter change on it today
using Castrol Edge Professional Synthetic 5w30 that meets my VW"s TDI 507 spec Oil requirements. also at VW bought the O.E.M Oil filter and some touch
Paint. over all costs i found were very reasonable for example: 5 Liters of Castrol 5w30 Professional Synthetic Oil $ 50.00 (9.99 a Liter)
Oil Filter Element $ 17.40 (partsguy thru in drain bolt washer free) - Touch-up Paint Kit comes with 1 paint pen & Laquer paint pen $22.00
Im glad i purchased these items from my Local VW near me because i found theme to be very reasonable at cost.
johnsTDI
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For fuel i use shell diesel i just recently filled up on shells V-power diesel. for cleaning the fuel system.
HPsenicka
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Hello.
and Yes its my 1st ever bought 2012 TDI Diesel ever owned.! So far im verry happy with it infact did the 1st Oil & Filter change on it today
using Castrol Edge Professional Synthetic 5w30 that meets my VW"s TDI 507 spec Oil requirements. also at VW bought the O.E.M Oil filter and some touch
Paint. over all costs i found were very reasonable for example: 5 Liters of Castrol 5w30 Professional Synthetic Oil $ 50.00 (9.99 a Liter)
Oil Filter Element $ 17.40 (partsguy thru in drain bolt washer free) - Touch-up Paint Kit comes with 1 paint pen & Laquer paint pen $22.00
Im glad i purchased these items from my Local VW near me because i found theme to be very reasonable at cost.
Curious to know which dealer... ?
johnsTDI
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I use shells V-Power Diesel strong enough to clean entire fuel system in my VW TDI if You run this fuel theres no need for any kind of Fuel Injector
cleaner to be added in the tank. and the engine performs better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjknhwcQXU
cleaner to be added in the tank. and the engine performs better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezjknhwcQXU
eddieleephd
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Funny, I have run Shell diesel for a while. If you use their rewards system you get 5 cents off and all you have to do is put in your phone number.
Gasoline wise I found years ago that shell let to better fuel mileage and will use it so long as it's within 10 cents off the leading competitor.
Only other fuel additive is power service for lubricity.
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Gasoline wise I found years ago that shell let to better fuel mileage and will use it so long as it's within 10 cents off the leading competitor.
Only other fuel additive is power service for lubricity.
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Jetta_Pilot
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What is a 2012 Highliner ???
What is a 2012 Highliner ???
Jetta_Pilot
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I just want to debunk all this crap about which Diesel is better!
Twice a year I drive through the USA and then into Mexico. I buy my Diesel where ever and whenever I need to fill up.
Once into Mexico since 2002 until 2018 there was absolutely NO choice, one filling station "PEMEX" all over the country. Since 2018 I can now get BP, Mobil and about 4-5 other brands some completely unknown.
Regardless of what I put into the tank it makes absolutely no difference to the performance !!!
Twice a year I drive through the USA and then into Mexico. I buy my Diesel where ever and whenever I need to fill up.
Once into Mexico since 2002 until 2018 there was absolutely NO choice, one filling station "PEMEX" all over the country. Since 2018 I can now get BP, Mobil and about 4-5 other brands some completely unknown.
Regardless of what I put into the tank it makes absolutely no difference to the performance !!!