Kerma OMI

wakdady · Jul 16, 2014

So i've been amassing parts for my ALH.
One of my purchases was a new style OMI from Kerma.

There are no tabs to bolt this thing to anything. Is that gonna be alright?
Anyone have experience with this? I say the one on IDParts had a tab on the picture but chose the Kerma due to price.

dirtride · Jul 17, 2014

From what I understand, the newer Kerma OMI is made out of aluminum & lightweight. It does not require any other mounting than the clamps that hold the pipes in place.

BuzzKen · Jul 17, 2014

Without any restraints, I don't see what will keep it from flopping around with engine movement. The rubber elbow at the turbo won't keep it very rigid, and otherwise it will just be tied to the airbox, which is stationary. Pics?

loudspl · Jul 17, 2014

wakdady said:
There are no tabs to bolt this thing to anything. Is that gonna be alright?
Anyone have experience with this?

My OMI was custom made and over the years the top mounting tab has sheared off due to engine movement/vibrations.

I ended up cutting the tab off instead of trying to weld back together over and over again. Never had problems since.

IMO you don't need it. Connect to turbo, connect to airbox, done

scrambld · Jul 17, 2014

wakdady said:
but chose the Kerma due to price.

That gets me every time for some reason. I chose vendors more closely now....

oldpoopie · Jul 17, 2014

I run the factory pd150 tip. It is aluminum and has mounting tabs, but due to the bigger gtb2260vk with the aftermarket exhaust manifold, i cant use either of the mounting tabs. Its been fine that way for years. No mounts needed.

wakdady · Jul 18, 2014

cool! thanks for the feedback! I haven't put it in yet, but will post pics when I do.
The turbo needs to be put in first.

I did, however, Install my tacotaco SMIC. it did not want to go in smoothly and I had to bend the tabs as well as widen the holes for the mount too.

The pic is what it looked like before modification

wakdady · Jul 20, 2014

So here's the problem. I ordered it with the junction for the oil catch thing.

Only problem is its in the wrong location! Furthermore, the hose is too large for the width of the actual piece that's supposed to fit in it. Now what?!

oldpoopie · Jul 20, 2014

Make your pic SMALLER!

oldpoopie · Jul 20, 2014

Youll have to call them monday...

wakdady · Jul 21, 2014

So I spoke with Paul at Kerma and was told I would have to fabricate hoses to go to the sensor and CCV. As well as making the sensor fit correctly.

BuzzKen · Jul 21, 2014

Bolt-on-ish.

oldpoopie · Jul 21, 2014

FYI it's not a sensor but a heater to prevent the ccv water vapors from freezing and blocking the ccv when the hit sub zero winter intake air temps

wakdady · Jul 21, 2014

oldpoopie said:
FYI it's not a sensor but a heater to prevent the ccv water vapors from freezing and blocking the ccv when the hit sub zero winter intake air temps

ahah, that explains why it looks the way it does on the inside.

Living in the bay area, will that have any consequences with a M.I.L. or the like should I remove it?

Nickmix · Jul 22, 2014

wakdady said:
So I spoke with Paul at Kerma and was told I would have to fabricate hoses to go to the sensor and CCV. As well as making the sensor fit correctly.

So he didn't offer any suggestions as to what you could use to fabricate the rest of the kit?

wakdady · Jul 22, 2014

this is what I received from them

"A 3/4 ID hose is necessary to hook up the CCV puck to the CCV hose. We are developing one now that we will be including in our new OMI kits which will be more expensive. Here are the instructions for installing the OMI "

flee · Jul 22, 2014

wakdady said:

Does it help to wrap the vacuum ball in foil?

yesiamtom · Jul 22, 2014

I was wondering the exact same thing...

BuzzKen · Jul 22, 2014

That's factory. Some have it.

wakdady · Jul 22, 2014

the nipple broke on my vac ball a while ago when i removed it so i bought a new one and it came like this.
the old one didn't have though.

flee · Jul 23, 2014

VW must have had a number of heat related failures there.
I'm feeling a ghetto-mod in my future!
Also, you might try rotating the CCV puck to shorten the hose run.

GOTADUB · Aug 5, 2014

Could you just drill and hole in the pipe like the id parts one and find and grommet to fit the heater into ?

wakdady · Aug 5, 2014

so it turns out finding a hose for this thing is a huge PITA.

only thing i could find was a large diameter clear pvc hose at ace hardware. it's hardly bendable and looks like crap.

I don't want to buy kerma's catch can for some $2xx because i feel it's heavily overpriced.

any suggestions?

oldpoopie · Aug 5, 2014

Take it to a decent hot rod shop or custom exhaust shop. They should be able to weld in a small pipe t allow you to run the stock puck position and hose.

kiwibru · Aug 6, 2014

Geez, that just doesn't look at all like the older units and the CCV attachment & placement they had. I have an older unit and the fit and adaptation is much better and well thought out. Seems like this new unit is not a finished product, leaving it to you the end user to flush that out...kind of like being a "beta" tester...a bit sad me thinks.

oldpoopie · Aug 7, 2014

@wackdaddy

You aren't going to pass cali emissions without the egr valve, so you might as well not mod the intake at all and just run an "elephant hose" out under the car to dump ccv to atmosphere......

wakdady · Aug 7, 2014

in any event, it's not fitting very well.
it hits one of the vacuum sensors that sit on the firewall, i had to jam the sensor/heater thing in backwards so it fits, finding the right hose hasn't been easy. it fits like so...

I feel as though I have to purchase a catch can now.

Otherwise, any ideas on how to best route these hoses?

CA smog is going to be difficult, but I do have a little time before that comes up.

dirtride · Aug 7, 2014

kiwibru said:
Geez, that just doesn't look at all like the older units and the CCV attachment & placement they had. I have an older unit and the fit and adaptation is much better and well thought out. Seems like this new unit is not a finished product, leaving it to you the end user to flush that out...kind of like being a "beta" tester...a bit sad me thinks.

Yes, I'm thinking the same thing. I have their first run of OMI's and it uses the stock accordian hose from the air box. I had to modify it some to fit the PD intake but not too bad...

Caddysmack · Aug 7, 2014

I have them on my cars

I have the aluminum one on my bew and the same one you have on my old ALH before I sold it and they worked great. Fitment was not bad but I also have there catch cans. I come from the gas VW scene and the kerma can is cheap compared to the ones the guys are making for the gas vag cars.
Here are some images of my bays:

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Wish I had a better picture of my old ALH bay. I-phone 3 was not the best.

wakdady · Aug 18, 2014

just an update.
Finally got Kerma's OMI to fit right. The fit from the turbo to the intake box fits pretty well.
It's light enough that it seems to support itself just fine.

The ccv issue has been addressed a ghetto way, but it works sans catch can.

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