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VW Passat Family (NMS and B7) TDIs (2012+) Discussion area for the 2012+ Passat TDI (North American and rest of world versions versions). The North American model was previously codenamed NMS (New Midsize Sedan) and the version the rest of the world gets is sometimes referred to as B7.

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Old April 24th, 2019, 19:37   #1156
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No - map data is just map data. Firmware is a different item.
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Old April 25th, 2019, 10:22   #1157
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Was tired of seeing people selling the firmware and Vim CDs on eBay for $30+ so I jumped feet first into doing it myself

Found an ISO for 1140 firmware (supposedly the newest you can use on A-D revisions according to a seller on eBay)
Used windows 10 built in burner at whatever speed is default and popped it into the D unit I have. I did NOT turn the key on, I pressed the power button on the unit itself and then inserted the disc.
Took about 45m. You get a few reboots then a white screen comes up asking to confirm the update. Hit ok or whatever it says and away you go

Then came the vim. Found an ISO for that. Burned it the same way
When I powered the unit on and inserted the disc, it recognized it as an "update" then gave me an error message saying it was an older update and ejected the disc. Screen said to reboot holding Guide, eject and day/night button
Did that and reinserted the disc. Then came up with the white screen asking to confirm update.
Pressed ok
30 seconds later it ejected the disc saying complete.

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Old April 30th, 2019, 07:20   #1158
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We'll the honey moon is over, our NOS '15 SEL and the POS RNS-510 appears to be deader than a doornail.

Wife complained of a dead radio on the way home yesterday. Looked at it, unit was rebooting and making it two second into the process before the screen flickered and shut down. Back lights would cylce some humming and screen back light would come on again. No images were displayed, and it didn't seem like it would ever go to sleep and give up.

I tried disco/reconnecting the battery, same thing no improvement. I left the battery disconnected it over night and called the dealer this morning, sitting at 36,700 at work right now. I'm just glad the radio didn't go out on our 1800 mile road trip at the beginning of the month.

The hope is they will "goodwill" the radio, do the claymore takata air bag recall as well as phase 2 of emissions all in one visit with a loaner, awaiting a call back from the dealer.

What the good word on VW's availability of replacement 510 units? is this something that is becoming unobtainium?
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Old May 7th, 2019, 10:18   #1159
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Picked up a 2014 TDI SEL a month ago. Didn't know about the RNS 510 reset issue and had a few reboots on the test drive. Chalked it up to hot weather and sitting on the lot. After the purchase, I learned about the issue. It has been tolerable with an occasional reboot every couple of days.


In the mean time, I took the plunge two weeks to update the map. Update went as described everywhere and there were no other changes. That went well enough that I downloaded the new firmware for future use if needed - The unit is an "L" model so I burned V5382. This past Sunday (5/5/19) the system went into a continuous reboot loop - every 2 1/2 minutes, like clockwork. I poked and prodded for two days but no soap. Tried all of the tricks and techniques noted here and other major VW sites.



Having nothing to lose, I started the firmware update process last night. Took a couple of attempts to get the disc to start loading but once that happened, just like the map update, everything went like clockwork.


Too early to tell if the system is permanently fixed but all tests last night went perfectly, as did the commute to work today (hour and half commute each way - that's why this is my third TDI - two Bugs and now that Passat for something a bit more comfy as well as practical).


Presets stayed, phone pairing stayed and it appears that all other settings remained set. The only thing that seems to have been lost were the destinations in the Nav memory. The best thing besides the rebooting problem going away is that Bluetooth media works now - didn't work before but all other phone functions were fine.


Fingers crossed, firmware upgrade all the way!


Everything has been working great for a few days, now. I presumed that the firmware I downloaded had VIM in it so I tested it this morning for the commute. Nothing - video shuts down around 5 MPH, just like it's supposed to. With all the success above, figured I would update VIM. Burned a disc at lunch hour and loaded it up. It choked with a failure on the next to last step so I forced a restart with Eject-Star-Guide. Went like magic. Five minutes later I was buzzing down the highway with Blade Runner on for my test passenger. Steering wheel DVD controls work while in motion. DVD continues to play in the background while the reverse camera is engaged. Lovin' this car!

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Old May 8th, 2019, 10:07   #1160
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Update from our POS RNS Dropped the car off on Thursday, picked up on Tuesday. Had a 2018 Tiguan Limited (basically the last hold off of the tiggy Gen1s) it was a royal pig, got 28mpg over 400 miles we put on it, and the slush box was horrendous the torque converter would never lock up for more than 1 min and I swear it acted like a CVT more than a conventional automatic.

VWoA picked up the tab for the unit but the dealer asked us pay for the install ($115). Some how I think VW reimbursed the dealer the full boat and they double dipped on the labor asking us to flip the bill.

Either way the radio seems a little better but I haven't played with it much.

I'll have to check the firmware and map version to see what they installed.

Also wife doesn't notice anything different with only stock phase 2A tuning, goes to show you how much she appreciated the Malone tune.
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Old May 16th, 2019, 16:27   #1161
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Got another unit in.
Went to update the maps with an OEM map disc, and it just keeps crashing after I hit Confirm.

Ideas? Gonna update the firmware today and see if it fixes it

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Old May 20th, 2019, 18:53   #1162
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When you purchase the new 2018 M12 North American maps for the RNS510, does it also include the firmware and boot software for the radio? I found a good link on how to update the hard drive to a faster solid state drive... but am curious if the DVD has everything you need to format a new hard drive.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/foru...diy-60984.html

It sounds like you also need the Software Recovery disk as well... and the Mega Download files that are required for a different partition size no longer link properly.
That hard drive is hard to find and I know a guy fairly skilled and could not get it to work.
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Old May 24th, 2019, 18:32   #1163
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Got another unit in.
Went to update the maps with an OEM map disc, and it just keeps crashing after I hit Confirm.

Ideas? Gonna update the firmware today and see if it fixes it

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Firmware update fixed everything.

Does anyone know what the latest firmware you can put on an E version?

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Old May 24th, 2019, 18:33   #1164
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Rev e can upgrade to sw4366

Anyone who needs firmware or maps can send me a private message


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Old May 24th, 2019, 18:38   #1165
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Will updating to 4366 delete the maps?

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Old May 29th, 2019, 06:30   #1166
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Well the wife sent a picture of her 'new' RNS, splash screen stated "system starting" the entire 40 commute, no sound nothing.

Whats the easiest way to check the firmware version again?
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Old May 29th, 2019, 12:35   #1167
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Hold "Set Up" for 15~ seconds

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Old May 29th, 2019, 14:48   #1168
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Firmware update and Map update are not the same, so updating your FW should be fine.
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Old May 30th, 2019, 02:54   #1169
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Well the wife sent a picture of her 'new' RNS, splash screen stated "system starting" the entire 40 commute, no sound nothing.

Whats the easiest way to check the firmware version again?
It sounds like they installed the firmware update and it needs recoded to enable Fender Audio. If you have VCDS or OBDELEVEN it’s an easy fix.

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Old May 30th, 2019, 06:40   #1170
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